Eat the Rich: Classism in the UK Entertainment Industry, Pt. 3 [ONTD Original]

[jdnightghobhadi]

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[fernandocolunga]

skinny Polish girls for being average weight and Italian
wat
thats like the exact opposite of my IB experience
although spanish girls were the meanest imo but then also im a sudaca soooooooooooooooo

[jdnightghobhadi]

Girl, I'm also Italian (well, my mother is) with a less than super skinny figure and I empathize dearly. God, this is like something straight out of Mean Girls. :/

Gah, thanks! That movie is so visually stunning! <3

TW (Harry Potter Kids vs. Stranger Things Kids)

[jdnightghobhadi]

This doesn't exactly fit into the main theme of the post, so I guess I'll include this here:

So, I understand that it's quite common for people to draw comparisons between the Stranger Things Kids and Harry Potter Kids, particularly when it comes to critiquing Millie Bobby Brown and what her having a, by all accounts, toxic stage dad will do for her future (if Thora Birch's career teaches us anything - I hope this won't happen to her!). The fact that many of them are underage still and are signed with high fashion brands and have insane Instagram followings (scarily unfiltered and with no regards to boundaries by adults who worship these kids like literal Gods and have access to seemingly nearly every part of their public lives put on display) - all of this shares little in common with the HP Kids when they were around the ST Kids' ages. Back in the ancient days of the 2000s, social media was still quite young and designer fashion trends for kids on the red carpet was virtually non-existent. One only has to look as far as the red

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[soarcha]

Also in context of Stranger Things, though he isn’t one of the kids Charlie Heaton grew up lower class in a council estate and had regular jobs before he landed acting gigs, and while supporting a child on top of that. Unsurprisingly he was more successful in America because the brooding British guy thing sells better there and he is overshadowed in his own country by the posh, privately educated peers (though he did manager to get cast in The Souvenir Part II with Tilda Swinton’s nepotism child.

I know ONTD absolutely despises him, especially after the airport scandal but I think for someone his background he has quite an impressive work ethic.

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[jdnightghobhadi]

Oh really? Wow, I actually did not know that about Charlie bc I don't really follow him (not that I hate him or anything despite the... yes, the airport shit, girl - thanks for reminding me, I forgot about that post here, but y'all know). *Googles* Oh, he's from Leeds and Bridlington! How did I not pick that up from his interviews bc the Yorkshire accent is so easy to spot??

I really only became aware of Millie's situation (and this was before I finally gave in and watched ST - I like the first season mainly, but this is beside the discussion) bc people are always talking about it on here. And then, all the Millie posts. And now it's all over Tumblr. Yeah, that's true about how American audiences eat up brooding, outcast types unlike in Britain, I think so with that context, his success overseas makes sense. I don't know, us Americans prefer underdogs or whatever? We believe so strongly in meritocracy, it's just a given.

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[soarcha]

Yes he is very Northern and lower class! Was in various bands since he was 16, got into a relatively famous one (at least in the London underground rock scene) in his late teens, where he had a shady relationship with the lead singer who was much older (in her 30’s while he just turned 18) and ended up having his child. The internet managed to write that one out when they write articles about him, I feel a lot of sympathy for him over that

[ms_mmelissa]

Thanks for all your hard work OP!

Did you dislike your private education, ONTD? Were you surrounded by under-baked meat pies (a.k.a. pasty white people)?
I went to public school my whole life and had an awesome education, but it was public school in really wealthy districts. I was surrounded by white people whose parents were incredibly successful, like make the newspaper for what they did level of accomplished, and most were low-range multi millionaires. I always felt super embarrassed by my family and it was only later I realized we were really average

[jdnightghobhadi]

Gah, thanks love and THANK YOU for all your wonderful insight in the comments! <3

[fernandocolunga]

Uhmmmm
PhDs are really hard to fucking get

[thrysus]

they're hard, but let's be honest: the majority of people getting PhDs are middle or upper middle class adults who are (a) able to ACCESS academia (bc the barriers it puts up to working class people are all-but insurmountable) and (b) procrastinating on entering the whitecollar 9-5 workforce (again, because they CAN).

[fernandocolunga]

It’s not like my privilege created Fleabag.
LMAO SIS C'MON

also omg poor millie her dad sounds mental like wtf to do that to a fucking child someone shouldve called the child protective services

im very keen on tobias menzies and how vocal he is about his political leanings but i cant figure out whats his background. lower middle class?

[nutmegdealer]

i thought his parents were teachers?

[pi_lady]

His father was a BBC radio producer.

[jdnightghobhadi]

Ugh, Phoebe! I was in the dark about this interview until some wonderful users brought it up in the comments of Part 1. Like, I still think the show is funny, but... Whew, mama!

*Literally, my face when I read that:

[black_swan87]

I’m just waiting for Florence Pugh to fuck up because she just looks like she lives messy

[infidelkast]

Dating someone who looks so much like her dad, that’s a can of messy

[hateistoodark]

Yeah im rooting for her but I think she’s bound to have a massive foot in mouth moment

[fernandocolunga]

I saw this quote before and I was like yeah I was expecting that