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[i_am_the_owl]

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It's a sad day for Jewish potheads. (Source)

But my current project is abolishing my universities football team:

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[nicknoble]

Yeah it dose make your argument less valid. If you say you know that you're not gonna be able to do anything about the team, then arguing/bitching about it is completely pointless.

Now if you said something like "its possable that I can do something about this and/or insipre someone to do something about this" then I'd say go for it.

[wifflebatgaijin]

It isn't possable (sic) that Kyle can do something about this or inspire someone to do something about this, but it is possible.

Besides, but your logic, or rather lack thereof, I don't think you've ever made a valid argument in your life. Well, I know you haven't, but this is just one more reason why.

You're dead wrong, Nick.

[nicknoble]

Well he said thats its not possible, so theres no point in bitching

[wifflebatgaijin]

And your inane words aren't going to change anything in regards to Kyle. So why don't you shut up? I mean, there's no point in bitching, right?

[cerealkilla47]

interesting point for sure. i wonder though, if u didnt stop at just football. i mean, its not the only scholarshiped sport at cmu. does any other sport there make money? and if not, the same argument could be made for any of them.

[i_am_the_owl]

If someone suggested lowering the football budget to that of, say, Women's Field Hockey, I'd be all for that, too.

[nicknoble]

yeah anything that dosnt make money should be stoped

[cerealkilla47]

im not saying i support it, im just saying that with the arguement he used, you could apply that to most anything.

[bondage_siren]

Let's just abolish football entirely.
Football causes car accidents, underage drinking, and ultimately, cancer.

You should include that in your argument.

[i_am_the_owl]

And crime! Especially CMU's team!

[supahtonto]

However, sports teams do bring entertainment. You can't say that no one ever goes to the games... because people do.

With this lack of a sports team, is it possible that some people would choose to not attend the school? I think it could be. It's kind of just... part of college, for some people.

Without research and polls done, I'm not sure you can claim anything for sure.

The idea is promising, but who knows.

And the team just sucks? We're actually in first place in the MAC this year. We're not struggling to stay in the MAC, the MAC is struggling to stay in division 1. I would just say to drop down to division 2... that way less money gets spent, the team plays better out of conference, and a winning school brings more people in. I'm not sure what 21 brings in money, but I know that Grand Valley State's team is pretty good, and I happen to know quite a few people that enjoy watching them even though they never went there AND they're division 2.

So who knows.

[wifflebatgaijin]

Collegiate football programs cost schools money, not make. Only a few schools in the country have profitable football programs; even the ones that are extremely successful and well known.

The people who attend schools for athletics, often times wouldn't make it to college on their own scholastic merits. And they hardly take their requirements seriously, as is proven by the number of highschool and college atheletes who regularly have to miss games because of adacemic ineligability. I just heard recently about a highschool that had to give up 4 basketball games they had won off their schedule because they had a player on the team who wasn't eligable to play. Except that his father was in some kind of position of influence and kept him on the team.

Removing college football would force these kids to go to academic institutions for academic reasons.

[supahtonto]

I didn't say anything about football programs making money. I didn't even argue that part.

And also, I'm not talking about the athletes themselves. I'm not saying that a football or basketball program will be a breaker in the decision whether or not to attend a certain university for everyone, but it would definitely affect the mindset of many.

I'm not really sure how you've "proven" anything to me without me being able to see some of these statistics of the number of athletes who regularly have to miss games. I know that it does happen, but academic probation happens to people that arne't on athletic teams as well, I don't know of the exact numbers, so I won't say that anything has been proven.

[wifflebatgaijin]

You've implied there's something to gain from these programs; if it isn't monetary, then what is it? People enjoying watching the game? Why does a school have to provide that for them? Should schools open up movie theaters on their campus? How about bars and strip clubs?

And also, I'm not talking about the athletes themselves. I'm not saying that a football or basketball program will be a breaker in the decision whether or not to attend a certain university for everyone, but it would definitely affect the mindset of many.

Which is all fine and well, but who cares if it's the breaker if the student isn't going there for school?

I'm not really sure how you've "proven" anything to me without me being able to see some of these statistics of the number of athletes who regularly have to miss games. I know that it does happen, but academic probation happens to people that arne't on athletic teams as well, I don't know of the exact numbers, so I won't say that anything has been proven.Yeah, and those people flunk out of college and

[lovemeharder]

it's a sad day for ISRAELI potheads. most jewish pot heads don't even live in israel

[i_am_the_owl]

it's a sad day for ISRAELI potheads. most jewish pot heads don't even live in israel.

So?

i'd like to abolish football for the entire country, it eats up a lot of money that could be going to better things. but the stadiums full of people make it clear: americans love football.

Yes, but the NFL actually makes money. Talking about how stupid consumers are is one thing, investing into a failing enterprise is something entirely different.

if you really want to help fellow students, maybe try a plan that doesnt enrage the vast majority of them?

Whether or not they're enraged is irrelevent. It would improve their college lifestyle dramatically by lowering the cost of everything the university throws their way since they no longer need to make up for lost revenue on a giant fiscal leech.

does the fact that you can't do it make it a bad idea, not really. however, if you are going to try to present it as an actual possible solution for a possible problem, the fact that it isn't really possible at all (as you admitted) does weaken you'

[nicknoble]

and your not a "stupid consumer"

[i_am_the_owl]

Point out how this has any relevance to anything I just said. Please.