Sorry for my late reply - I had to go to bed. It was already 5 AM when I wrote this, haha. But sooo worth it.
Because honestly, all I've ever wanted for Dean was peace, happiness, and he can get that with her and Ben. The number of reasons as to why this works are enormous in magnitude.Yes, he definitely deserves it. I'm not sure though if he will ever find it with Lisa and Ben. I think he HAS to hold on to something, that's just who he is. He has never been alone, has always had someone to look after. Now Sammy is gone, he's in hell - and of course Dean WANTS to go and save him... but he can't because a) he made a promise and b) the last time the both of them tried to save each other, they started the Apocalypse. Maybe NOT going after Sam is Dean's version of growing up like he said to Sam at the beginning of this episode - for once he stands back and things of the bigger picture
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This is different than any other relationship I've ever seen, love story or otherwise. Zachariah wasn't over exaggerating when he was talking about their co-dependency.I used to madly in love with the Harry Potter series (still am, but it is kind of fading) and one of the things I enjoyed most about it was the blatant emphasis on LOVE. Especially the pure and undeniable POWER of love... that's how HP defeated Voldemort in the end - the exact same way. There was no magic involved, no special power, certainly no special kind of skill on Harry's part - just... love; pure and simple. THAT'S what saved the world... And God, I could spend hours just talking about all the wonderful layers and themes and moral playground the story carries within itself. But anyway... what I actually meant to say with this: I think the most amazing stories, the ones that make us think and feel and cry and emote are always those that speak from the heart. The outline can be crazy, and 'supernatural', it can include magic and impossible journeys and the
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You know, I was thinking the same thing! For a small moment I was convinced that Dean would jump in with Sam... and I like to believe that he thought about it - I really think he did. But then... well. He knows what it's like down there and he's human. I guess the painful memories were enough to keep him from jumping after Sam. In retrospect, I'm glad he didn't do it.
Aw, shit. I've been a bawling mess all night :( I don't think it is going to get better any time soon. I have no idea how I am going to survive an apple-pie day at work today! O_O
That you so much for writing this. It seems like there's so much negativity going around post-5x22, and I dunno. I just... That's not what I'm here for. I'm here to be in love, and there's nothing gonna change that. So it's good to know that others share this sentiment. I'm getting all overwhelmed again just thinking about this, now.
You are very welcome! =) I know, all these negative reaction make me sad, too. I mean, I can understand how some might not like this episode all that much. The great thing about Supernatural is the incredible range of different genres it contains.
There are some people who watch mainly for the comedy, classic rock and a badass main character (I'm guessing most of them have already left). Then there are those who watch for mythology and interesting, complicated plot lines... and of course there are those (me included) who watch for the show's themes like 'family' and 'love' and 'betrayal' and all that emotional stuff. For me, this finale was perfect because I really really don't give a fuck about plot-holes and mythology - I do enjoy it; after all, it keeps the action going but it certainly isn't my main focus. As long as their actions and mannerisms make sense to me, I am a very happy fan But on the other hand, for people who have a thing for mythology, people who are invested in that aspect of the show the finale must have been
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I think we're totally on the same page. The only times SPN really 'bothers' me (even then it doesn't... I just kind of think lolwtf but I still enjoy myself) is when the characters do something that seems contrary to who we know they are. And even then, with enough thought and fandom-spinning, it's possible to make everything justified--and if you're not willing to do that kind of work or don't think you should HAVE to, well, I suppose I can see why Show would be disappointing in that regard.
I don't really understand fandom's intense dislike of this Lisa thing, either. I actually kind of liked it, because there's Lisa, the ONE person outside their hunting life Dean has actually had some kind of pleasant, if not OMG DEEP relationship with. It's not that she's the One, it's that she's someone, who knows what's out there. And I don't know, I thought that her sheer arbitrariness was part of the charm. I loved her scenes both at the end of 5x22 and 5x19. She just seemed so worried for Dean, and scared of what he was planning for
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I think we're totally on the same page. The only times SPN really 'bothers' me (even then it doesn't... I just kind of think lolwtf but I still enjoy myself) is when the characters do something that seems contrary to who we know they are. And even then, with enough thought and fandom-spinning, it's possible to make everything justified--and if you're not willing to do that kind of work or don't think you should HAVE to, well, I suppose I can see why Show would be disappointing in that regard.
Gee, you know what? Thank YOU.
Seriously, I sometimes feel like I am doing something wrong just by loving the show and actively wanting to keep loving it. I can almost always find a way for things to make sense to me because I WANT them to. And whenever I do this throughout a discussion with someone who wasn't that happy with an episode, I keep hearing the "well I'm sorry if I'm not one of the everything-is-perfect-and-happy fansresponse. It gets to a point where I am actually glad when I truly dislike something just so I can prove to myself
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I loved Chuck’s voice-over because what he said carried so much meaningYes, exactly! I think Chuck was the best thing in this episode - he made SENSE in a way he shouldn't really
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Aw, man! I'm sorry that you are disappointed *hugs*
I mean, gosh... there was quite a lot I didn't really care for/like in this episode. On top of it all, there is that very very anti-climatic conversation between Michael and Lucifer: after all, the whole season was aiming to THIS point. The Big Fight. The Fight that would destroy half of human race -- but it certainly didn't feel 'big'. I'm not sure if I am missing something here, if I simply got the facts wrong. But yeah, I didn't feel the ~danger~ and armageddon-vibe at all. I think that's what's definitely killed the climax of the overall season arch.
But despite all that, I still loved this episode to pieces. I got my finale, I got to see exactly what I signed up for in the first place :D
Well, I know he is good in the emotional scenes. And he was so perfectly devastated when Lucifer first jumped into Sam and disappeared. (those hands on his head...poor man).I KNOW, RIGHT? That scene absolutely killed me. God. So.Much.Desperation. Everything, absolutely EVERYTHING came
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As for the Sam/Bobby thing: I completely agree! I like to think that it's got a lot to do with the fact that Bobby next to all his awesomness and nonblood-family member status, is still a HUNTER at heart. I think we gathered over the seasons that hunters are close-knitted community. They value family and humanity... and they certainly aren't very welcoming of anything that is remotely supernatural
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Sorry for my late reply - I had to go to bed. It was already 5 AM when I wrote this, haha. But sooo worth it.
Because honestly, all I've ever wanted for Dean was peace, happiness, and he can get that with her and Ben. The number of reasons as to why this works are enormous in magnitude.Yes, he definitely deserves it. I'm not sure though if he will ever find it with Lisa and Ben. I think he HAS to hold on to something, that's just who he is. He has never been alone, has always had someone to look after. Now Sammy is gone, he's in hell - and of course Dean WANTS to go and save him... but he can't because a) he made a promise and b) the last time the both of them tried to save each other, they started the Apocalypse. Maybe NOT going after Sam is Dean's version of growing up like he said to Sam at the beginning of this episode - for once he stands back and things of the bigger picture ( ... )
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You know, I was thinking the same thing! For a small moment I was convinced that Dean would jump in with Sam... and I like to believe that he thought about it - I really think he did. But then... well. He knows what it's like down there and he's human. I guess the painful memories were enough to keep him from jumping after Sam. In retrospect, I'm glad he didn't do it.
Aw, shit. I've been a bawling mess all night :( I don't think it is going to get better any time soon. I have no idea how I am going to survive an apple-pie day at work today! O_O
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I know, all these negative reaction make me sad, too. I mean, I can understand how some might not like this episode all that much. The great thing about Supernatural is the incredible range of different genres it contains.
There are some people who watch mainly for the comedy, classic rock and a badass main character (I'm guessing most of them have already left). Then there are those who watch for mythology and interesting, complicated plot lines... and of course there are those (me included) who watch for the show's themes like 'family' and 'love' and 'betrayal' and all that emotional stuff. For me, this finale was perfect because I really really don't give a fuck about plot-holes and mythology - I do enjoy it; after all, it keeps the action going but it certainly isn't my main focus. As long as their actions and mannerisms make sense to me, I am a very happy fan But on the other hand, for people who have a thing for mythology, people who are invested in that aspect of the show the finale must have been ( ... )
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I don't really understand fandom's intense dislike of this Lisa thing, either. I actually kind of liked it, because there's Lisa, the ONE person outside their hunting life Dean has actually had some kind of pleasant, if not OMG DEEP relationship with. It's not that she's the One, it's that she's someone, who knows what's out there. And I don't know, I thought that her sheer arbitrariness was part of the charm. I loved her scenes both at the end of 5x22 and 5x19. She just seemed so worried for Dean, and scared of what he was planning for ( ... )
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Gee, you know what? Thank YOU.
Seriously, I sometimes feel like I am doing something wrong just by loving the show and actively wanting to keep loving it. I can almost always find a way for things to make sense to me because I WANT them to. And whenever I do this throughout a discussion with someone who wasn't that happy with an episode, I keep hearing the "well I'm sorry if I'm not one of the everything-is-perfect-and-happy fansresponse. It gets to a point where I am actually glad when I truly dislike something just so I can prove to myself ( ... )
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*does not usually speak in lolcat*
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It's okay! lolcat means I get to pat you. *pats you* ♥
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I mean, gosh... there was quite a lot I didn't really care for/like in this episode. On top of it all, there is that very very anti-climatic conversation between Michael and Lucifer: after all, the whole season was aiming to THIS point. The Big Fight. The Fight that would destroy half of human race -- but it certainly didn't feel 'big'. I'm not sure if I am missing something here, if I simply got the facts wrong. But yeah, I didn't feel the ~danger~ and armageddon-vibe at all. I think that's what's definitely killed the climax of the overall season arch.
But despite all that, I still loved this episode to pieces. I got my finale, I got to see exactly what I signed up for in the first place :D
Well, I know he is good in the emotional scenes. And he was so perfectly devastated when Lucifer first jumped into Sam and disappeared. (those hands on his head...poor man).I KNOW, RIGHT? That scene absolutely killed me. God. So.Much.Desperation. Everything, absolutely EVERYTHING came ( ... )
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