Ok, all that above? Actually just foreplay :D I only want to praise my darling Jensen/Dean for his performance. Well, I know he is good in the emotional scenes. And he was so perfectly devastated when Lucifer first jumped into Sam and disappeared. (those hands on his head...poor man). He also comes across as truly scared the whole time over, which is good because nobody else seemed to be. The scene that actually broke me a bit though was - surprisingly - NOT the "I ain't gonna leave you", which was pretty damn heartbreaking. No, it was the second his voice broke when he asked Lisa if he could maybe get that beer now. *sniff* I wonder in what kind of state you have to act yourself in to make your voice break like that, since it never did THAT much, even after AHBL. So yeah, that did it for me.
Hmm, I'm not exactly satisfied with Sam showing up in the last scene, either. But I think it's better (for me, at least) to know that the authors didn't put him in Hell, too, for four months, aka 40 years. I think the whole Hell-business should be for Dean alone. It would have been too much for s6 to go through Sam's torturous time down there, too. I am still hoping for someone addressing Dean's traumatic experiences sometime during the next season, and it would spoil the idea for me if he had to "share".
Man, that sounds WRONG on so many levels....
Oh, btw: Emmy for make-up! Man, Dean looked like pulp, when Lucifer worked him over. OUCH. I've never seen a character be that smashed to bone-fragments, I think. Maybe James Bond in "Casino Royal"? But I think not. It looked...painful. And right. Because you shouldn't look pretty after the devil punches you to bloody goo. Just glad that Cas made him pretty again. ("Are you god?" "No, but thanks for the compliment")
You know, I've always stuck to the believe that Bobby likes Dean a bit more. I have no idea why, exactly, but his whole demeanour towards him indicated that. And this episode? Sealed my believe. Did you notice how fast not only Castiel, but also Bobby accepted Sam being gone, Sam losing to Lucifer? they didn't even TRY to fight for Sam. Dean was the ONLY one who didn't lose his faith in him. So, that scene where he told Sam that he believes that Sam can do it - that was the absolute truth. He didn't bullshit him. But Bobby did. Ok, he did that pep-talking, but he didn't actually believe it.
Poor Sam.
I was really pissed at Bobby and Cas. They just gave Dean so much shit for nearly giving in to Michael, but the second Sam said yes, they just dug their heads in their butts. I'm pretty sure if Sam had gone to Hell after s3 and not Dean, Bobby would have done MUCH more to keep Dean in his sight, not drink himself into a stupor. aww, Bobby. You're such a good man. Dean totally deserves that much love. So, I'm glad they got their heads back on their necks to molotov Michael (heee "Did you just molotov my BROTHER?" "uh... nnnoooooo?" *heee*) And thank Chuck, they got their heads back in the end...
Chuck. Here we are again. I actually don't like the concept of him being God, not really. But what can I say? I'm still completely happy with it. Huh. I'm surprised myself. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. Maybe he didn't realize, like Anna "forgot" she was an angel. Possible. I don't care, because his voiceover was just so.damn.fitting. And that last lines? "Endings are hard. There will be loose ends and the fans will bitch anyway." Yes. Yes, exactly. And because he said so, I won't bitch, and I refuse to be truly disappointed.
Because all in all, it was an ok episode, and I actually love none more than "Wendigo" anyway. ("Dead in the water" comes close second ;-) )
Because of THAT voice (and man, does he have a good voice!), everything fit and everything is fine. And because of what the voice said... I feel good.
And I'm patiently waiting for September to come. I've still got two or three fics to finish.
Aw, man! I'm sorry that you are disappointed *hugs*
I mean, gosh... there was quite a lot I didn't really care for/like in this episode. On top of it all, there is that very very anti-climatic conversation between Michael and Lucifer: after all, the whole season was aiming to THIS point. The Big Fight. The Fight that would destroy half of human race -- but it certainly didn't feel 'big'. I'm not sure if I am missing something here, if I simply got the facts wrong. But yeah, I didn't feel the ~danger~ and armageddon-vibe at all. I think that's what's definitely killed the climax of the overall season arch.
But despite all that, I still loved this episode to pieces. I got my finale, I got to see exactly what I signed up for in the first place :D
Well, I know he is good in the emotional scenes. And he was so perfectly devastated when Lucifer first jumped into Sam and disappeared. (those hands on his head...poor man). I KNOW, RIGHT? That scene absolutely killed me. God. So.Much.Desperation. Everything, absolutely EVERYTHING came crashing down for Dean that moment Samifer disappeared. And Jensen absolutely nailed it - perfect, brilliant acting. Gush. (hey, I know I have posted a seperate entry with this already, but in case you haven't seen it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNIzuf20YUc --- perfect usage of THAT scene in this video ♥ I'm in love.)
No, it was the second his voice broke when he asked Lisa if he could maybe get that beer now. *sniff* I wonder in what kind of state you have to act yourself in to make your voice break like that, since it never did THAT much, even after AHBL. So yeah, that did it for me. It's magnificent, isn't it? Man... it isn't even a real break. It's so subtle, almost non-existent... that just show the extent of which Jensen GETS Dean. Dean would never truly show his state of emotions to people, always trying to keep up the soldier, the strong one, the one who does not, under any circumstances give in to all the crap the angels and demons and God have put on him. But his body and his soul are raging against his mind - they are already broken. It's sheer willpower that keeps him going. And then we hear Jensen speak in THAT voice - and there ist just SO MUCH reason and meaning in it. (Welcome back, tears! I think I might wanna get used to you guys... >_<).
Yeah well, Cas and Bobby... hm, I gotta say I almost feel bad for saying this.. but I honestly didn't care one bit for them during this episode. I was so enthralled in Sam and Dean that I wasn't really paying attention to their story. I think I heard someone say that they wish, Bobby had stayed dead (or Cas for that matter; either of them). Because at one point someone HAS to die, right? Otherwise it won't feel real anymore. Gee, we're fans. We can take the heart-break. We practically live off it, heh.
As for the Sam/Bobby thing: I completely agree! I like to think that it's got a lot to do with the fact that Bobby next to all his awesomness and nonblood-family member status, is still a HUNTER at heart. I think we gathered over the seasons that hunters are close-knitted community. They value family and humanity... and they certainly aren't very welcoming of anything that is remotely supernatural.
Sam has left his family for his own sake. In Bobby's eyes, that sure must have been Mistake Number One. And later, he finds out about Sam's demon involvement and all that - family be damned, I'm sure it MUST have scratched on his beliefs and values. But of course he still loves Sam - he is family. Dean's the one he feels a closer connection. Probably because he 'gets' him more... and he represents all that is true and valuable in Bobby's eyes (not literally, but you know what I mean, yeah?).
Ah well, I am a happy pile of all that is happy at the moment.
Oh, one last thing: you know, I KEEP wanting to talk about Lisa and Ben because I honestly think that there is so much truth and sense in their involvement in the storyline. I love how they fit into Dean's characteristic development... BUT I really don't like the actress portraying Lisa. Huh o_o I never gave it too much thought because I'm way too invested in Dean's side of the story. But yeah, I don't like her. Back when I saw 'The Kids Are Allright' I wanted that other woman to be Lisa (you know, the one who wanted to drown her daughter?). That woman had SKILLS. Meh, I think she'd've been perfect for that role.
Buuut who cares. I like Lisa and I love what she represents in Dean's life (even more so what BEN represents ♥).
Hmmm, not sure about Bobby's issues with Sam's supernatural insides. I think it has more to do with the implied knowledge of Dean during Sam's stay at Stanford. There is that sentence when Dean said "last time I saw you, you threatened Dad with a shotgun" (or did he say "we saw you"? I hope I'm not wrong...) So, for me, that implies that Dean had been in contact with Bobby with John but without Sam. Maybe even quite a lot, until he chased John away and Dean chose to understand it as him also not being welcome anymore. So, I'm just guessing this, but I think Bobby witnessed how much Dean missed Sam, especially since Sam somehow for some reason didn't call him, didn't pick up the phone. Together with Dean experiencing Bobby's wife being possessed and learning first-hand why their mentor became a hunter, and handling it so delicately and just right ("DalDom")... I guess he just fell in love with Dean. And no, I'm certainly not implying anything slashy. I know you know what I mean.
DEAN was the one who begged Bobby not to kill himself. On a more shallow level, Dean is the one who loves cars and draws comfort from tinkering with them, something I guess Bobby does also, considering how his house and yard diverted to a junkyard. So yes, I agree that he feels closer to Dean maybe because he is 'more hunter' than Sam, but on the other hand, Sam is just as scholarly as Bobby, so ther could have been as much connection over this. But there isn't.
Bobby and Dean just fit each other and understand each other. He isn't their father, so he has every right to have one of them as his favourite. And for whatever reason, that is Dean.
zatnikatel put this in her story "The Killing Moon" (do you know it?), and mirrordance and others mention it or even write a fic about the connection between those two, so I know I'm not the only one.
I, too, was very disappointed in Bobby and Cas, this ep. They were disillusioned and had just given up. What a bunch of dicks, especially Castiel! Man, he kicked Dean nearly unconscious for wanting to say 'yes', but the second he lost the rest of his mojo, he just gives up? Double-standard much? I perfectly see why in 2014, he was high as a kite all the time. And even then he had more fire than he did in 5x22.
Do you have the habit of reading gaelicspirit's ramble? Se really nails it, in my opinion.
And as to being disappointed about the non-epicness (?) of the showdown... well. Yeah. I guess that was pretty much why I sat at my computer and said - out loud - "What the FUCK?" after that episode finished. It was 'meh'. Dean/Jensen was great, Sam/Jared was good. Nobody died long-term (though I really wouldn't have minded Cas staying dead. Just sayin') and the car is safe.
I would have liked Chuck NOT vanishing and implying he was God, because I'd have liked him just as he was. But ok, if they wanted to.
I also very much believe that this would have been a completely different episode if it HAD been the last ever. I know (for a fact) that Kripke chose the boys coming from Lawrence because of exactly that cemetery, therefore I know that it was always intended to end there. I guess it was also always meant to end in kinda that way, that Dean and Sam chose their own destiny. I'm not sure if it would have been still Adam as Mike, but meh, whatever. (Man, did you too think Adam-as-Michael was the most boring angel ever? Boy, he looked like somebody stole his lunchbox at school. )
So, next season we'll have bobby's soul and Crowley \o/, Meg is still out there, Jesse (maybe), Dean and Sam re-uniting (and please, let Dean kick Sam's ass for letting him believe he was still in Hell... (only exception if maybe Sam didn't remember. That'd be kinda interesting)), somehow Dean breaking up with Lisa (please, don't kill her) and then lots and lots of monsters. We didn't yet have a boogeyman! I want one! Yeah, I can live with that schedule.
Oh, though I like the actress who plays Lisa, I agree that the other one was much better. My friend, who watches SPN just since 3rd season (in German...) was SHOCKED about that episode. She is a mother herself, and she was just... man, that was just totally creepy for her.
Ok, stopping now. Should I check the video? I am tear-free right now...
Ok, all that above? Actually just foreplay :D
I only want to praise my darling Jensen/Dean for his performance. Well, I know he is good in the emotional scenes. And he was so perfectly devastated when Lucifer first jumped into Sam and disappeared. (those hands on his head...poor man). He also comes across as truly scared the whole time over, which is good because nobody else seemed to be.
The scene that actually broke me a bit though was - surprisingly - NOT the "I ain't gonna leave you", which was pretty damn heartbreaking. No, it was the second his voice broke when he asked Lisa if he could maybe get that beer now. *sniff* I wonder in what kind of state you have to act yourself in to make your voice break like that, since it never did THAT much, even after AHBL. So yeah, that did it for me.
Hmm, I'm not exactly satisfied with Sam showing up in the last scene, either. But I think it's better (for me, at least) to know that the authors didn't put him in Hell, too, for four months, aka 40 years.
I think the whole Hell-business should be for Dean alone. It would have been too much for s6 to go through Sam's torturous time down there, too. I am still hoping for someone addressing Dean's traumatic experiences sometime during the next season, and it would spoil the idea for me if he had to "share".
Man, that sounds WRONG on so many levels....
Oh, btw: Emmy for make-up! Man, Dean looked like pulp, when Lucifer worked him over. OUCH. I've never seen a character be that smashed to bone-fragments, I think. Maybe James Bond in "Casino Royal"? But I think not. It looked...painful. And right. Because you shouldn't look pretty after the devil punches you to bloody goo. Just glad that Cas made him pretty again. ("Are you god?" "No, but thanks for the compliment")
You know, I've always stuck to the believe that Bobby likes Dean a bit more. I have no idea why, exactly, but his whole demeanour towards him indicated that. And this episode? Sealed my believe.
Did you notice how fast not only Castiel, but also Bobby accepted Sam being gone, Sam losing to Lucifer? they didn't even TRY to fight for Sam. Dean was the ONLY one who didn't lose his faith in him. So, that scene where he told Sam that he believes that Sam can do it - that was the absolute truth. He didn't bullshit him. But Bobby did. Ok, he did that pep-talking, but he didn't actually believe it.
Poor Sam.
I was really pissed at Bobby and Cas. They just gave Dean so much shit for nearly giving in to Michael, but the second Sam said yes, they just dug their heads in their butts.
I'm pretty sure if Sam had gone to Hell after s3 and not Dean, Bobby would have done MUCH more to keep Dean in his sight, not drink himself into a stupor. aww, Bobby. You're such a good man. Dean totally deserves that much love.
So, I'm glad they got their heads back on their necks to molotov Michael (heee "Did you just molotov my BROTHER?" "uh... nnnoooooo?" *heee*) And thank Chuck, they got their heads back in the end...
Chuck. Here we are again. I actually don't like the concept of him being God, not really. But what can I say? I'm still completely happy with it. Huh. I'm surprised myself.
Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. Maybe he didn't realize, like Anna "forgot" she was an angel. Possible. I don't care, because his voiceover was just so.damn.fitting. And that last lines? "Endings are hard. There will be loose ends and the fans will bitch anyway."
Yes. Yes, exactly. And because he said so, I won't bitch, and I refuse to be truly disappointed.
Because all in all, it was an ok episode, and I actually love none more than "Wendigo" anyway. ("Dead in the water" comes close second ;-) )
Because of THAT voice (and man, does he have a good voice!), everything fit and everything is fine. And because of what the voice said... I feel good.
And I'm patiently waiting for September to come. I've still got two or three fics to finish.
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I mean, gosh... there was quite a lot I didn't really care for/like in this episode. On top of it all, there is that very very anti-climatic conversation between Michael and Lucifer: after all, the whole season was aiming to THIS point. The Big Fight. The Fight that would destroy half of human race -- but it certainly didn't feel 'big'. I'm not sure if I am missing something here, if I simply got the facts wrong. But yeah, I didn't feel the ~danger~ and armageddon-vibe at all. I think that's what's definitely killed the climax of the overall season arch.
But despite all that, I still loved this episode to pieces. I got my finale, I got to see exactly what I signed up for in the first place :D
Well, I know he is good in the emotional scenes. And he was so perfectly devastated when Lucifer first jumped into Sam and disappeared. (those hands on his head...poor man).
I KNOW, RIGHT? That scene absolutely killed me. God. So.Much.Desperation. Everything, absolutely EVERYTHING came crashing down for Dean that moment Samifer disappeared. And Jensen absolutely nailed it - perfect, brilliant acting. Gush. (hey, I know I have posted a seperate entry with this already, but in case you haven't seen it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNIzuf20YUc --- perfect usage of THAT scene in this video ♥ I'm in love.)
No, it was the second his voice broke when he asked Lisa if he could maybe get that beer now. *sniff* I wonder in what kind of state you have to act yourself in to make your voice break like that, since it never did THAT much, even after AHBL. So yeah, that did it for me.
It's magnificent, isn't it? Man... it isn't even a real break. It's so subtle, almost non-existent... that just show the extent of which Jensen GETS Dean. Dean would never truly show his state of emotions to people, always trying to keep up the soldier, the strong one, the one who does not, under any circumstances give in to all the crap the angels and demons and God have put on him. But his body and his soul are raging against his mind - they are already broken. It's sheer willpower that keeps him going. And then we hear Jensen speak in THAT voice - and there ist just SO MUCH reason and meaning in it. (Welcome back, tears! I think I might wanna get used to you guys... >_<).
Yeah well, Cas and Bobby... hm, I gotta say I almost feel bad for saying this.. but I honestly didn't care one bit for them during this episode. I was so enthralled in Sam and Dean that I wasn't really paying attention to their story. I think I heard someone say that they wish, Bobby had stayed dead (or Cas for that matter; either of them). Because at one point someone HAS to die, right? Otherwise it won't feel real anymore. Gee, we're fans. We can take the heart-break. We practically live off it, heh.
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Sam has left his family for his own sake. In Bobby's eyes, that sure must have been Mistake Number One. And later, he finds out about Sam's demon involvement and all that - family be damned, I'm sure it MUST have scratched on his beliefs and values. But of course he still loves Sam - he is family. Dean's the one he feels a closer connection. Probably because he 'gets' him more... and he represents all that is true and valuable in Bobby's eyes (not literally, but you know what I mean, yeah?).
Ah well, I am a happy pile of all that is happy at the moment.
Oh, one last thing: you know, I KEEP wanting to talk about Lisa and Ben because I honestly think that there is so much truth and sense in their involvement in the storyline. I love how they fit into Dean's characteristic development... BUT I really don't like the actress portraying Lisa. Huh o_o
I never gave it too much thought because I'm way too invested in Dean's side of the story. But yeah, I don't like her. Back when I saw 'The Kids Are Allright' I wanted that other woman to be Lisa (you know, the one who wanted to drown her daughter?). That woman had SKILLS. Meh, I think she'd've been perfect for that role.
Buuut who cares. I like Lisa and I love what she represents in Dean's life (even more so what BEN represents ♥).
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So, for me, that implies that Dean had been in contact with Bobby with John but without Sam. Maybe even quite a lot, until he chased John away and Dean chose to understand it as him also not being welcome anymore. So, I'm just guessing this, but I think Bobby witnessed how much Dean missed Sam, especially since Sam somehow for some reason didn't call him, didn't pick up the phone.
Together with Dean experiencing Bobby's wife being possessed and learning first-hand why their mentor became a hunter, and handling it so delicately and just right ("DalDom")... I guess he just fell in love with Dean. And no, I'm certainly not implying anything slashy. I know you know what I mean.
DEAN was the one who begged Bobby not to kill himself. On a more shallow level, Dean is the one who loves cars and draws comfort from tinkering with them, something I guess Bobby does also, considering how his house and yard diverted to a junkyard. So yes, I agree that he feels closer to Dean maybe because he is 'more hunter' than Sam, but on the other hand, Sam is just as scholarly as Bobby, so ther could have been as much connection over this. But there isn't.
Bobby and Dean just fit each other and understand each other. He isn't their father, so he has every right to have one of them as his favourite. And for whatever reason, that is Dean.
zatnikatel put this in her story "The Killing Moon" (do you know it?), and mirrordance and others mention it or even write a fic about the connection between those two, so I know I'm not the only one.
I, too, was very disappointed in Bobby and Cas, this ep. They were disillusioned and had just given up. What a bunch of dicks, especially Castiel! Man, he kicked Dean nearly unconscious for wanting to say 'yes', but the second he lost the rest of his mojo, he just gives up? Double-standard much? I perfectly see why in 2014, he was high as a kite all the time. And even then he had more fire than he did in 5x22.
Do you have the habit of reading gaelicspirit's ramble? Se really nails it, in my opinion.
And as to being disappointed about the non-epicness (?) of the showdown... well. Yeah. I guess that was pretty much why I sat at my computer and said - out loud - "What the FUCK?" after that episode finished.
It was 'meh'. Dean/Jensen was great, Sam/Jared was good. Nobody died long-term (though I really wouldn't have minded Cas staying dead. Just sayin') and the car is safe.
I would have liked Chuck NOT vanishing and implying he was God, because I'd have liked him just as he was. But ok, if they wanted to.
I also very much believe that this would have been a completely different episode if it HAD been the last ever. I know (for a fact) that Kripke chose the boys coming from Lawrence because of exactly that cemetery, therefore I know that it was always intended to end there. I guess it was also always meant to end in kinda that way, that Dean and Sam chose their own destiny. I'm not sure if it would have been still Adam as Mike, but meh, whatever. (Man, did you too think Adam-as-Michael was the most boring angel ever? Boy, he looked like somebody stole his lunchbox at school. )
So, next season we'll have bobby's soul and Crowley \o/, Meg is still out there, Jesse (maybe), Dean and Sam re-uniting (and please, let Dean kick Sam's ass for letting him believe he was still in Hell... (only exception if maybe Sam didn't remember. That'd be kinda interesting)), somehow Dean breaking up with Lisa (please, don't kill her) and then lots and lots of monsters. We didn't yet have a boogeyman! I want one!
Yeah, I can live with that schedule.
Oh, though I like the actress who plays Lisa, I agree that the other one was much better. My friend, who watches SPN just since 3rd season (in German...) was SHOCKED about that episode. She is a mother herself, and she was just... man, that was just totally creepy for her.
Ok, stopping now. Should I check the video? I am tear-free right now...
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