I sort of feel like, pre-apocylpse she would've kept a baby. Religious reasons as well as personal ones. But I don't think she would have post-apoclypse. As she was a pilot, perhaps they would have made an exception on the ban. For essential personnel? Idk.
Definitely could see her going either way. Depending.
I would have to agree with you. I'm not very sure that Adama, Lee (even other people) would not have tried to prevent her from doing so no mater who the father was.
But I think that in those conditions her first reaction would have been to not keep the baby.
I wonder too. I can't see her being sidelined willingly for any length of time with cylons shooting people out of the air. She about went crazy when her knee was messed up for that short time so how much more would she hate being out of it long term
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During the rewatch of LDYB we started speaking about Lee's involvement in the decision to approve the rescue mission to Caprica. We started this after Lee's speech in front of the pilots and during the talk that he had with Kara in his office before she left. So I'm wondering - taking advantage of today's topic - what do you think about this?
Lee's role in the LDYB Caprica rescuewinegumsJuly 16 2012, 16:05:30 UTC
You know what I said :)
But I definitely do think that it's no coincidence that Kara - who pushed hard for this for months before giving up (c. Scar, maybe even c. RS2) suddenly gets approval for her mission within a month of Lee taking command of the Pegasus, especially given his openly expressed support of the plan and Adama and Roslin's stiff resistance before that.
I think part of that can be attributed to Kara making a fresh push for it (what happened between them in Scar, Sacrifice and The Captain's Hand definitely had a role in this), but the fact that it succeeded this time, that definitely smells to me like Lee backing the plan to PapAdama and getting him to agree.
Kara's Dead Folks IssueswinegumsJuly 16 2012, 16:15:01 UTC
I've always found it interesting that Kara doesn't seem to allow herself to really express her feelings for someone unless they're dead/as good as dead/she thinks they're dead.
(see: Lee being assumed dead in the miniseries, Sam when Cylon Simon tells her he's dead in The Farm and in Scar, Sam again during Goo Tub time, Socrata, to a lesser extent Zak - whose death I think was what changed everything.)
And the miniseries reunion is kind of what sets it all off for pilots - once she's acknowledged, even in the smallest way, the fact that his death affects her, it's flat-out dangerous when he walks back into her life and is perfectly fine)
Re: Kara's Dead Folks Issuesword_vomityJuly 16 2012, 20:26:08 UTC
And the miniseries reunion is kind of what sets it all off for pilots - once she's acknowledged, even in the smallest way, the fact that his death affects her, it's flat-out dangerous when he walks back into her life and is perfectly fineAnd I think this is the crux of it, really. She possesses such a strong defensive mechanism that death is the only time that she can deal with her feelings and let them free. Because she so fears the repercussions of sincerity and openness. A lesson learned from both parents and from Zak. If you open yourself up, you will certainly get hurt
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Re: Kara's Dead Folks IssueswinegumsJuly 16 2012, 20:34:34 UTC
How do you un-recognize how important someone is to you? You can't.
Exactly. And Sam has many shades of Zak mk. II (easygoing dude who would do pretty much anything for her), it's impossible not to see the connection as stemming at least partly from what he symbolises - a fresh start, no baggage from her past - more than who he is.
Re: Kara's Dead Folks Issuesword_vomityJuly 16 2012, 20:43:23 UTC
Yup. Very true. I think it's well demonstrated that Kara is quite comfortable with a man who let's her decide how much she's willing to commit. It's one of the reasons her & Lee struggle, he wants it all, all the time. Sam & Zak are considerably less needy that way. Which is weird, because she was willing to marry both of them, which is supposedly the biggest commitment of all.
That's true, though he doesn't let anyone know what's going on besides Kara (and Dee finds out by listening in).
Come to think of it, no one offers him any help when he goes into depression following UB either. Not that anyone who was up there besides Dee could probably figure out what it was (since she alone knew the cause).
Pretty much everyone in the military besides Helo looks like they're severely in need of a whole raft of therapists.
I think Chief and Kara are the only ones who are ever offered the option, but taking help of that kind just doesn't seem to be part of that culture, since both of them reject it - the ONLY person who sees a shrink is Hera, and she's a toddler.
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Definitely could see her going either way. Depending.
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But I think that in those conditions her first reaction would have been to not keep the baby.
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But I definitely do think that it's no coincidence that Kara - who pushed hard for this for months before giving up (c. Scar, maybe even c. RS2) suddenly gets approval for her mission within a month of Lee taking command of the Pegasus, especially given his openly expressed support of the plan and Adama and Roslin's stiff resistance before that.
I think part of that can be attributed to Kara making a fresh push for it (what happened between them in Scar, Sacrifice and The Captain's Hand definitely had a role in this), but the fact that it succeeded this time, that definitely smells to me like Lee backing the plan to PapAdama and getting him to agree.
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Btw, it's good to be able to meet you during the week :)
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(see: Lee being assumed dead in the miniseries, Sam when Cylon Simon tells her he's dead in The Farm and in Scar, Sam again during Goo Tub time, Socrata, to a lesser extent Zak - whose death I think was what changed everything.)
And the miniseries reunion is kind of what sets it all off for pilots - once she's acknowledged, even in the smallest way, the fact that his death affects her, it's flat-out dangerous when he walks back into her life and is perfectly fine)
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Exactly. And Sam has many shades of Zak mk. II (easygoing dude who would do pretty much anything for her), it's impossible not to see the connection as stemming at least partly from what he symbolises - a fresh start, no baggage from her past - more than who he is.
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Come to think of it, no one offers him any help when he goes into depression following UB either. Not that anyone who was up there besides Dee could probably figure out what it was (since she alone knew the cause).
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I think Chief and Kara are the only ones who are ever offered the option, but taking help of that kind just doesn't seem to be part of that culture, since both of them reject it - the ONLY person who sees a shrink is Hera, and she's a toddler.
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