I ♥ the Outsiders (the team Dick joins when he quits the Titans). That icon is from awesome issue where Jason contacts Dick because he gets evidence that another superhero didn't actually commit a murder (I have scans from it somewhere, if you want.) I took it as definitive proof that Jason's heart is in the right place. Sadly there is no sex in the rain in the actual issue but there totally could have been.
YAAAAAAY ROBIN ICONS. OMG that "subject of schoolgirl fantasies" one is amazing. I HEAR YOU, KARA. (My brain is pretty much a backdrop of Dick and hearts right now, with frequent appearances by Babs and Dinah. It's... getting a little ridiculous.)
So in his view, it's okay to carry a gun and use lethal force when you've got official sanction?
Interesting point. I'm just starting Nightwing now, so I haven't really gotten to the issues yet where he becomes a cop, but... I would suspect he wouldn't ever actually USE his gun to exert lethal force? I dunno. If that never came up one way or the other, it's a wasted opportunity (especially during the time before his partner figures out his secret identity, because she, at least, would expect him to be prepared to shoot if necessary). Iiiiinteresting.
Also the more I think about it, in my very limited knowledge of canon, it seems like the "no killing" thing is a line that Bruce clings to because it's symbolic to him (though Alfred echoes it often enough, about how once you kill,
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My brain is pretty much a backdrop of Dick and hearts right now, with frequent appearances by Babs and Dinah. It's... getting a little ridiculous
I'm in a similar boat, with added Jason!
would suspect he wouldn't ever actually USE his gun to exert lethal force? I dunno. If that never came up one way or the other, it's a wasted opportunity
Yeah, I'd like to know if it was explored. And it's not like I expect that he would, but I imagine it raises eyebrows if one uses one's superhero skills to subdue suspects on patrol as a member of the police force. At least, once one has to write up a report. ("Suspect attempted to flee the scene by running into the street, but Officer Grayson apprehended him by doing a backflip over oncoming traffic and landing in the spot the suspect was aiming for.")
(especially during the time before his partner figures out his secret identity, because she, at least, would expect him to be prepared to shoot if necessary).Yes. This. If your partner doesn't believe you've got their
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"Suspect attempted to flee the scene by running into the street, but Officer Grayson apprehended him by doing a backflip over oncoming traffic and landing in the spot the suspect was aiming for."
HEEEEE. Yes! Actually, from what I've noticed so far (I've only read the first five or so issues all the way through but I admit to doing some skimming of later issues for Dick/Babs goodness *koff*), crime very often seems to occur RIGHT as Dick is getting off his shift, so he can conveniently slip into a phonebooth his costume! PERFECT. *g*
I think there are some pretty large exceptions in the universe they inhabit, you knowI agree. And what I meant to say, I think, was not so much that they don't all believe in the no-killing approach, but that I think that when Bruce says, "Once you kill one person, it's a slippery slope," the truth is that once HE kills someone, it would be a slippery slope FOR HIM, but--as you say--that's not necessarily true for everybody. Just because Bruce is a giant ball of rage waiting to explode doesn't mean
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crime very often seems to occur RIGHT as Dick is getting off his shift, so he can conveniently slip into a phonebooth his costume! PERFECT.
It's lovely that the universe crime orders itself around his schedule. Otoh, if I had to be caught by someone in the DCU, I'd choose him, so maybe the criminals are smarter than they look. Hee.
but that I think that when Bruce says, "Once you kill one person, it's a slippery slope," the truth is that once HE kills someone, it would be a slippery slope FOR HIM, but--as you say--that's not necessarily true for everybody. Just because Bruce is a giant ball of rage waiting to explode doesn't mean they ALL are. Heh. IMHO. But I'm not sure he sees that.
Yes. This. Not everybody is like you, Bruce! Some people don't feel angry all the time! (Um, or so I'm told. *cough*)
But at the same time, it's weird that they make such a big deal of it--it MAKES it an issue all the time. Yeah. I mean, I get that it does make for lots of drama? But it's also kind of like, um, we know they're not going to do it -
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Screencaps from Teen Titans were difficult to find, but I managed. *g* I really needed icons of both Robin/Raven and Robin/Starfire. Sadly, I don't have room on LJ for them atm, but they live happily over on DW.
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I ♥ the Outsiders (the team Dick joins when he quits the Titans). That icon is from awesome issue where Jason contacts Dick because he gets evidence that another superhero didn't actually commit a murder (I have scans from it somewhere, if you want.) I took it as definitive proof that Jason's heart is in the right place. Sadly there is no sex in the rain in the actual issue but there totally could have been.
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I would LOVE to see scans from it.
I took it as definitive proof that Jason's heart is in the right place.
That makes sense.
Sadly there is no sex in the rain in the actual issue but there totally could have been.
We can fix that! We have the technology! *g*
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I'll get right on that.
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So in his view, it's okay to carry a gun and use lethal force when you've got official sanction?
Interesting point. I'm just starting Nightwing now, so I haven't really gotten to the issues yet where he becomes a cop, but... I would suspect he wouldn't ever actually USE his gun to exert lethal force? I dunno. If that never came up one way or the other, it's a wasted opportunity (especially during the time before his partner figures out his secret identity, because she, at least, would expect him to be prepared to shoot if necessary). Iiiiinteresting.
Also the more I think about it, in my very limited knowledge of canon, it seems like the "no killing" thing is a line that Bruce clings to because it's symbolic to him (though Alfred echoes it often enough, about how once you kill, ( ... )
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INORITE?
My brain is pretty much a backdrop of Dick and hearts right now, with frequent appearances by Babs and Dinah. It's... getting a little ridiculous
I'm in a similar boat, with added Jason!
would suspect he wouldn't ever actually USE his gun to exert lethal force? I dunno. If that never came up one way or the other, it's a wasted opportunity
Yeah, I'd like to know if it was explored. And it's not like I expect that he would, but I imagine it raises eyebrows if one uses one's superhero skills to subdue suspects on patrol as a member of the police force. At least, once one has to write up a report. ("Suspect attempted to flee the scene by running into the street, but Officer Grayson apprehended him by doing a backflip over oncoming traffic and landing in the spot the suspect was aiming for.")
(especially during the time before his partner figures out his secret identity, because she, at least, would expect him to be prepared to shoot if necessary).Yes. This. If your partner doesn't believe you've got their ( ... )
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HEEEEE. Yes! Actually, from what I've noticed so far (I've only read the first five or so issues all the way through but I admit to doing some skimming of later issues for Dick/Babs goodness *koff*), crime very often seems to occur RIGHT as Dick is getting off his shift, so he can conveniently slip into a phonebooth his costume! PERFECT. *g*
I think there are some pretty large exceptions in the universe they inhabit, you knowI agree. And what I meant to say, I think, was not so much that they don't all believe in the no-killing approach, but that I think that when Bruce says, "Once you kill one person, it's a slippery slope," the truth is that once HE kills someone, it would be a slippery slope FOR HIM, but--as you say--that's not necessarily true for everybody. Just because Bruce is a giant ball of rage waiting to explode doesn't mean ( ... )
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It's lovely that the universe crime orders itself around his schedule. Otoh, if I had to be caught by someone in the DCU, I'd choose him, so maybe the criminals are smarter than they look. Hee.
but that I think that when Bruce says, "Once you kill one person, it's a slippery slope," the truth is that once HE kills someone, it would be a slippery slope FOR HIM, but--as you say--that's not necessarily true for everybody. Just because Bruce is a giant ball of rage waiting to explode doesn't mean they ALL are. Heh. IMHO. But I'm not sure he sees that.
Yes. This. Not everybody is like you, Bruce! Some people don't feel angry all the time! (Um, or so I'm told. *cough*)
But at the same time, it's weird that they make such a big deal of it--it MAKES it an issue all the time. Yeah. I mean, I get that it does make for lots of drama? But it's also kind of like, um, we know they're not going to do it - ( ... )
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Screencaps from Teen Titans were difficult to find, but I managed. *g* I really needed icons of both Robin/Raven and Robin/Starfire. Sadly, I don't have room on LJ for them atm, but they live happily over on DW.
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