Examining...

Feb 25, 2009 00:01

So someone asked over at Ren's if any kinky people had talked about examining their desires, and Ren recommended reading me.

Not sure exactly why, as all I've been saying lately is that such a thing involves asking the wrong questions, but... just so this person has something to see, here goes nothing.

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miz_evolution February 25 2009, 06:10:45 UTC
you are a font of wisdom, that's why.

So, next film..crimescenes, or auto crashes? decisions, decisions....

I should prolly examine that, huh?

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lilairen February 25 2009, 07:33:47 UTC
Y'know, I just went through a boatload of posts over at LFG, and I haven't written anything at all about "where this came from". Possibly because I find it a really ... boring ... subject ( ... )

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fierceawakening February 25 2009, 16:08:16 UTC
Y'know, I just went through a boatload of posts over at LFG, and I haven't written anything at all about "where this came from". Possibly because I find it a really ... boring ... subject.

Yeah, I noticed I didn't have any at all either, aside from a few speculations about knives. And when I sat down to write this I felt so bored, and so much like writing an erotic story or the like would be not only more fun but richer in terms of showing how my mind works.

Still, I'm not sure we convince people who value this kind of examining that it's not worth much by not doing it. Probably better to show the contrasts between this and, say, a scene report I've posted here.

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lilairen February 25 2009, 21:22:33 UTC
My kind of snarky turn-the-tables bits kind of want to go "examine" why these people are so damn interested in such a boring subject. Which is also unhelpful....

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anonymous February 25 2009, 16:25:16 UTC
It hurts to be beautiful? Damn, I'm glad I wasn't raised a woman.

Anyway, a part of your post made me think, and I've got it quoted in my latest blog post. Check it out: physicalsophistry.blogspot.com

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fierceawakening February 25 2009, 21:34:05 UTC
Hi Gorgias/Alcibiades/someone from Platonic dialogues.

And yes, that was a common saying. I had a sensitive scalp and long hair as a kid, and my grandmother always used that line to silence my protests at having the snarls forcibly ripped out of my hair.

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pharaoh_katt March 1 2009, 10:52:09 UTC
I remember people telling me that. "Beauty is pain". I would always reply with "Pain is beauty". In my mind, they had it mixed up. Beauty isn't inherently painful, but pain is beautiful.

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preciouslilme March 27 2009, 07:29:03 UTC
I same here from your link on feministing and while interesting I don't think ti fully explains the problems I have with BDSM. I don't doubt that there are people who do like it from both genders but it does not explain why women so much more often fall into the submissive side and men to the dominant. My theory is that if it was all natural that we would have closer to equal numbers of both. Nor does it explain women who get introduced into being submissive by boyfriends and come to believe that it is the only way to have sex and the only way to please "men".

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fierceawakening March 27 2009, 13:34:02 UTC
Hello, preciouslilmeThanks for reading ( ... )

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fierceawakening March 27 2009, 20:40:01 UTC
also, I may just be missing something, but why is someone with an icon of a woman licking blood off her hand, labeled "sinsuality," talk about BDSM as "unnatural"? Are you into it yourself but think it's entirely social? Because I must say that has me very confused.

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preciouslilme March 27 2009, 23:46:52 UTC
What do you think explains the lack fo female tops? I think that the clashing with what society says is okay explains the difference between the men who have submissive fantasies and the men who actually act them out.

I do believe there are some natural subs but I do wonder to what degree society has made women who might be interested in BDSM take on the submissive role automatically. I was one of those women myself and my partner took on the role of dominant. It wasn't until a year later that he told me that he hated being dom and was actually more sub. I'd figured out I hated any sort of power play altogether soon after we started.

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