Important Discussion Time.

[solerika]

It has been brought to my attention that some of our players have been having issues in being dragged into things they don't wish to take part in. To keep this place fun for all, I would like to remind everyone that to involve other players in a fight or scene without their consent is godmoding, which is clearly stated to be against the community

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[highmaintanance]

This.

Also in the spirit of things, I would like to add my own two cents. Keep in mind that this has no impact on the mods or the community itself, it is just my personal thoughts on the subject(s).

Firstly, I would like to EPICALLY reiterate the second point made in this post. Sometimes people just aren't interested, and it is their prerogative to post or not. It's entirely possible that they don't like the idea, they don't like your character, or maybe they just don't feel like playing the day it was posted. It's not a personal attack if someone doesn't reply to your post/your comments, the post/comment itself likely just doesn't appeal to the player/the player's muses. And I agree wholeheartedly to the statement of "it sucks", but that's life. Refer to the saying "Life sucks and then you die", plzkthx.

Secondly, my biggest pet peeve is the term "AU". It means Alternate Universe, for those of you unaware (I promise I'm not patronizing anyone, I'm just a snarky bitch). This, however, is not an excuse to be out of character with

[chibidreck]

B-baaaaaw. Chibet will be sad if he can't exist anymore. ;~; Not that I guess he deserves to... not only is he from an AU, he's not even even technically Luke |D; eeehg... *goes to die* Guess I'm not really following the rules...

[scionofhispower]

With the first point, people deciding to drag other players into fights without asking them (or predetermining, "Hey, we're going to go attack this person! :D" without asking if they're alright with it) is also something that could make someone decide not to post with a certain character. For instance, knowing that, if I were to post with this Asch, he'd probably get jumped, attacked, or dragged into a fight that I wouldn't even know about if it weren't for the fact that I read through other people's threads has turned me off from doing any posts with him, period. It's one thing for someone to come up and argue with him; he can bitch right back and belittle people with words just fine. But an attack is something entirely different, particularly when every single character that seems to do these "we gonna go attack so-and-so" without consent of so-and-so's player happens to be a godmoddy character who "omg you can't touch I so strong" or instaheals. It doesn't exactly encourage people to post, to reply to those characters, or to

[ringthedead]

I think somewhere in that statement, it's directed to a certain redhead individual. It might've been because of Nebby's recent activity, but just because he comes up with elaborate ideas it doesn't mean he will act upon it.

I haven't strike Scion with Nebby after that one time and I haven't had plans of attacking with Nebby since.

And...of course they would act like so because that's what the character themselves believes. I gave Nebby weaknesses but he's also a character who doesn't really have anything to lose and will go all out. He's a character that absolutely believes he is all powerful. I mean unless you meant how they post, then nevermind lol

Sorry, these sort of issues makes me paranoid and go back to ringthedead since these sort of characters seem to go through these sort cycles constantly.

[highmaintanance]

'Kay I'm not Josie so I can't ...really account for everything said and blahblahblah, but it's not just Nebby!Luke. It was in part the Nebilims that started the issue, as they were plotting to attack fononfailure and her helpless child (which, seeing as they're as good as married, also involves scionofhispower). Whether this was a baseless threat between crazies or not nobody was really sure of, but we figured it was a good time to remind people of the issues some of us have been having with god-modding. This just happened to be what finally spurred the post being made.

And by all means, Nebby!Luke and replica!Nebilim are awesome. We need some antagonistic crazies up in this joint. It makes the dressing room a little more lively, gives it a little plot and all. The only point that I think is trying to be conveyed here is to please be clear that your crazy is crazy and likely going to attack people. It's kind of like the NWS tags-- maybe this should be a post to spur a "fighting!" tag or something. As a general rule it's fairly obvious, but not everyone is

[scionofhispower]

Well, at the moment part of what's keeping me from posting with him is the Nebby duo, yes, because Luke, Asch, and Aidan were specifically named with them. However, Nebilim!Luke does have weaknesses and can be stopped, at least (and the one fight between him and my Asch was one we decided on together), whereas there have been others who have wanted to physically strike Asch without even consulting me on it. And I've noticed that, every single time it happens, it's someone who's character "can't be defeated" (which, quite honestly, I have to laugh at, since Asch could erase their existence with hyperresonance, but if I were to use that as his defense against characters who are played like that, I'd get yelled at for it; nevermind that Abyss has two canonical extreme godmods: Asch and original!Ion. Luke, Sync, replica Ion, Florian... they've all got high portions of that godmod power going too, of course. Hell, if it's a Luke from after Asch's death, he has the super godmod power for a second-order hyperresonance that means you can't

[sacrocenere]

Before posting this, did you IM or PM the people in question? Trying to clear things up behind the scenes would have eliminated the need for this entire post.

Also, those who are pointing things out, did you attempt to contact the people whose behavior is in question? Did you PM or IM them saying "Hey, this looks kinda godmoddy, let's work on that" or "I'm sorry, but I'm uncomfortable with how this is going, so I'm not going to comment further on that thread"? You'd be amazed how people will listen and respond if you just communicate how you feel.

Has anyone attempted to communicate, or are we all bitching and assuming the poor players know and are ignoring it? If no one communicates with the players in question, then those players have no idea. They're having fun and they think everything's okay.

In fact of weaknesses, has anyone asked? I know my characters have tons of weaknesses I've revealed. If anyone has forgotten a character's weakness, I doubt it's that the player hasn't revealed it or it doesn't exist, but rather it's been

[solerika]

About communicating with each other, that's what this post is for. Some people are afraid to poke another player in private out of the blue and say "Hey, what you're doing is bugging me." or such. Not everyone really knows everybody else here, so I can't blame them for preferring a more open setting to talk about things. Directly confronting someone has a strong possibility of backfiring when there is no one to play referee. Also, that is part of my job as moderator to help keep things running smoothly. I admit to probably being too easy-going, as I really wasn't aware until just recently that there was a problem to begin with

[sacrocenere]

Direct confrontation can backfire, yes. That's not what I'm talking about, and if it does backfire, we're all mature enough to say "okay, this isn't working" and go to you next. I'm talking about poking a player that you're currently threading with and saying "Hey, let's talk." Not saying "knock it off" but saying "hey, this is bugging me, let's work it out." Josie saying she doesn't want certain types playing with the new bitty Luke... if things take a sour turn, it's possible to PM the player with an apology. "Hey, I'm sorry, but I'm not comfortable with how this is going." Nine times out of ten that will stop the thread. Problem fixed. There's a possibility the person might try to work with you so the thread continues but it's within a comfort zone. Problem fixed. I used to play in a group where someone wasn't comfortable with porn. One of my characters was romantically involved with that player. The player told me and we agreed to fade to black. We communicated and stayed within the player's comfort zone. I used to have a huge

[wire_birdcage]

An apology on the part of the person who is being attacked should not be necessary. When your character is causing the problem, you should be apologizing for the issue you've caused. Why do you think I had to intervene? Because your character smeared blood on a sandwich for a seven year old. How the hell was she even supposed to respond to that?

...Besides, if rape is so triggering for you, why is it in half of your character's overly tortured pasts?