Important Discussion Time.

[solerika]

It has been brought to my attention that some of our players have been having issues in being dragged into things they don't wish to take part in. To keep this place fun for all, I would like to remind everyone that to involve other players in a fight or scene without their consent is godmoding, which is clearly stated to be against the community

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[scionofhispower]

Well, at the moment part of what's keeping me from posting with him is the Nebby duo, yes, because Luke, Asch, and Aidan were specifically named with them. However, Nebilim!Luke does have weaknesses and can be stopped, at least (and the one fight between him and my Asch was one we decided on together), whereas there have been others who have wanted to physically strike Asch without even consulting me on it. And I've noticed that, every single time it happens, it's someone who's character "can't be defeated" (which, quite honestly, I have to laugh at, since Asch could erase their existence with hyperresonance, but if I were to use that as his defense against characters who are played like that, I'd get yelled at for it; nevermind that Abyss has two canonical extreme godmods: Asch and original!Ion. Luke, Sync, replica Ion, Florian... they've all got high portions of that godmod power going too, of course. Hell, if it's a Luke from after Asch's death, he has the super godmod power for a second-order hyperresonance that means you can't use big-bad-super-special fonic artes against him, because he can nullify them. And that's not even getting into the supreme godmod that Lorelei could be).

But I digress. The thing is that, when a character is "being hunted" without the player's consent, unless they went in and read through all of the comments on everyone's posts (and, quite honestly, there's some posts that even I won't read, in spite of the fact that I try to read all of the, because they're just really not my cup of tea in some way or another), they wouldn't even know about it. So they might reply to a post and get into a fight right away that they didn't even know was coming, or they might make a post for their character and suddenly get jumped/attacked/your word of choice here... and have no idea why. It's... really unfair to people and it certainly doesn't encourage someone to actively play their characters.

But, the thing is, there have been (and are) characters here that you can't damage in any way, no matter how powerful, quick, well-trained, or just plain good your character is in a fight. Even if you manage to land a hit on them, and they instaheal! You move to strike them, and "nope, superfast so-and-so is superfast!" And unfortunately, even with doing absolutely nothing, Asch manages to get targeted by people, and the only reason I know about it - and thus continue to avoid using him - is because I've looked through as many posts as I can. It's simply not fair to expect every single person to do that, and some may not be comfortable with certain characters being targeted.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUT anyway, I go on-and-on (and this is because I'm sleepy and have a terrible headache, so I get rambly), while the latest bit with the Nebilim-types has certainly spawned me not using Asch again, it's really just the latest instance of planned attacks against a character without the player of that character being consulted.

[ringthedead]

:/ Well you know how I work. And honestly...seeing as I have yours and Sol's SN on AIM, I would have ask if I had planned something. What was being talked about in that thread, least on my part, whatever Nebby was spurting in that thread was what it is. Just him blabbing because he's jealous. So I'd say this was a misunderstanding. He talked threats but I myself, never planned to do anything and figure I wouldn't bother pinging people if I wasn't going to execute his crazy ideas.

I'm sorry if people are making it difficult for you to post with Asch though. All I can really say is, if it turns into that you do have the option to just stop responding to the person.

And if this just continues to pop up with everyone, then people should consider NOT making such controversial characters :| Because no matter what, I feel like this issue will continue to pop up regardless.

[scionofhispower]

Mm, the thing is, I have had instances where he's gotten attacked without me knowing it was going to happen. It's not a matter of "don't make controversial characters," but a matter of making sure that someone they'd be going after is informed that they're a target. Because, yes, while I know you would actually message me and ask, "Hey, is it alright if..." I also know from experience that not everyone does give that courtesy and just jumps on in on someone who's completely unsuspecting. Which is the whole point of this: people need to ask before involving someone else's character in things like that. That'd, quite honestly, prevent the issue from ever coming up.

And while people have the option to stop responding, the attacker also has the capacity to contact the victim first or the option to not respond in the first place if they were unsure of how it would be received. Plus, at times, it gets pressed, and then people complain when threads a player was uncomfortable with get dropped. Which is all a situation that could be avoided by a simple, "Hey, is it alright if..." message.

[knightinspandex]

"he has the super godmod power for a second-order hyperresonance that means you can't use big-bad-super-special fonic artes against him, because he can nullify them. And that's not even getting into the supreme godmod that Lorelei could be."

That is cuz Asch and Luke + Lorelei arez teh shiiiiit \o/ <3