I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THESE THOUGHTS. Especially the gun meta, mmmmmm.
Also I kind of think it is unfair to criticize the sciencefail of the characters, because obviously in this universe science works differently than it does in reality.
I would address things you say regarding the stuff on the beach, but it just makes me angry again about how little sense it makes. In my internal fake canon, they all go back to the mansion and the rift still happens, but, like, over the first year or several years of the school. Blah.
Also I kind of think it is unfair to criticize the sciencefail of the characters, because obviously in this universe science works differently than it does in reality.
Hmmm, this is an EXCELLENT point, the kind that makes me feel silly for not thinking of that myself. In the movie I didn't really mind at all, it's more that in fandom when lofty rhetoric about it is, like, the crux of the story I'm just kind of, eh. It's all a metaphor anyway; I don't want Erik pontificating about it for paragraphs when, like...I just want the shapes sketched out and the societal conflict.
And as for "immediate," like, I've had textbooks that use it that way--again, I don't mind the in-movie use.
but either way, clearly a bunch of shit works super differently, so, huh. WILL MEDITATE ON THIS.
and yeah, sigh, I spend a lot of time not thinking about the beach.
gunmeta is my favorite of those, though. I'm just waiting on permission to quote someone in my post because I want to be polite and not, like, splash things said in e mail all over public
when lofty rhetoric about it is, like, the crux of the story I'm just kind of, eh. It's all a metaphor anyway; I don't want Erik pontificating about it for paragraphs when, like...I just want the shapes sketched out and the societal conflict.
Oh, yeah, I would totally agree with that. I don't know, I often get confused by Erik in post-movie stories in general. Like, he's such a sympathetic character, and in a way kind of the tragic hero of the movie, but ... yeah, Team Charles, in the sense where I can't stop being like "...you guys know terrorism is BAD, right? We can all agree on that?"
Yeah, a lot of my meta is actually about fandom, I suppose, or...sort of in defense of certain parts of cannon? Which doesn't stop me from being all "SHIT MAKES NO SENSE, YO," about other parts of cannon, so, hmm. Except I love, like, most of fandom's thoughts on stuff, and I enjoy it all, just...I disagree with some things.
I read SO few post move timeline stories exactly because of that! Like, I mean citizenjess's stuff, but her Magneto is usually still REASONABLE, and she plays around with other timelines.
Team Charles, in the sense where I can't stop being like "...you guys know terrorism is BAD, right? We can all agree on that?"
EXACTLY.
Team Why Is the Creepy Telepath Actually the Most Morally Reasonable Person Present.
Just following orders: In which I will discuss this line in light of the Milgram experiments of 1963, and basically go, "Erik, you dick. Charles has a point."
Um, yes please, fuck. Charles has taken so much flack for this line, but it makes a lot of sense in context and I don't think he's a terrible person for trying to avert disaster, and yeah. Um, I'm legit. Team They Must Be Together Forevs but Jesus.
Yeah, exactly. I agree that it's not the best/correct thing to say to Erik, obviously, but I don't think Charles is actually wrong. Not blowing up a bunch of people = often the right decision, okay. Averting lots of death? Usually not a terrible thing.
Without you, I would still be quietly grumbling to myself into the ether. Well, except for the gun thing; I think I started discussing that before you, but EVERYTHING ELSE...
...I kind of want to write in your proposed world that already has telepathy pamphlets, you know. But it would be SO BIASED.
No, I am so for gunporn; this fandom needs more gunporn. I THINK I SAY THIS TO SOMEONE EVER SINGLE DAY, seriously. Not to the same person, but...probably to mostly the same people in rotation. I think I even say this to my boyfriend every few days, though. INSUFFICIENT GUNPLAY IN THIS FANDOM.
but would the amount of gunporn EVER be sufficient? probably not. that said, I like my gunporn with lots of EMOTIONS.
All Teams are valid, but Team THEY ARE BOTH DICKS does have some especially excellent arguments.
No really though you think mutants who can control magnetic fields and like read minds and are evidently kinky fucks would be into all kinds of shit involving guns. I MEAN IT ONLY MAKES SENSE
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But, I mean, yeah. It's sort of like, he kills Shaw, and then he is totally unprepared to deal with Shaw being dead (has Erik thought about the future at all previously, at all, no, I don't know so--c'mon, Erik, you blind furious baby, you) so he's like...I WILL FLIP OUT HARDER AND BE VIOLENT EVERYWHERE NOW. CLEARLY THIS WORKED OUT FOR ME THE FIRST TIME, SO.
If someone just, like, punched him in the mouth and knocked him out, dude, and then they got him a blanket and a cup of hot chocolate, there would be no super villainy. Oh, Erik. I feel for you, yet I feel that mostly you just need to take a fucking nap, okay.
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Also I kind of think it is unfair to criticize the sciencefail of the characters, because obviously in this universe science works differently than it does in reality.
I would address things you say regarding the stuff on the beach, but it just makes me angry again about how little sense it makes. In my internal fake canon, they all go back to the mansion and the rift still happens, but, like, over the first year or several years of the school. Blah.
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Hmmm, this is an EXCELLENT point, the kind that makes me feel silly for not thinking of that myself. In the movie I didn't really mind at all, it's more that in fandom when lofty rhetoric about it is, like, the crux of the story I'm just kind of, eh. It's all a metaphor anyway; I don't want Erik pontificating about it for paragraphs when, like...I just want the shapes sketched out and the societal conflict.
And as for "immediate," like, I've had textbooks that use it that way--again, I don't mind the in-movie use.
but either way, clearly a bunch of shit works super differently, so, huh. WILL MEDITATE ON THIS.
and yeah, sigh, I spend a lot of time not thinking about the beach.
gunmeta is my favorite of those, though. I'm just waiting on permission to quote someone in my post because I want to be polite and not, like, splash things said in e mail all over public
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Oh, yeah, I would totally agree with that. I don't know, I often get confused by Erik in post-movie stories in general. Like, he's such a sympathetic character, and in a way kind of the tragic hero of the movie, but ... yeah, Team Charles, in the sense where I can't stop being like "...you guys know terrorism is BAD, right? We can all agree on that?"
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I read SO few post move timeline stories exactly because of that! Like, I mean citizenjess's stuff, but her Magneto is usually still REASONABLE, and she plays around with other timelines.
Team Charles, in the sense where I can't stop being like "...you guys know terrorism is BAD, right? We can all agree on that?"
EXACTLY.
Team Why Is the Creepy Telepath Actually the Most Morally Reasonable Person Present.
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JUST NOT THE SUDDEN OF SUDDEN ONSET COMPLETELY BATSHIT GENOCIDAL MEGALOMANIA.
It gets confusing, telling the two apart, I know.
The power of Sudden Onset Tragically bad Fashion Sense is probably in my wallet, too, though, I gotta admit.
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I now want to put together this ensemble.
Also, I would probably try to use my wallet as a clutch with that dress, except that the wallet is white/pink/black/purple leopard print.
SO BASICALLY YEAH, EXACTLY.
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Um, yes please, fuck. Charles has taken so much flack for this line, but it makes a lot of sense in context and I don't think he's a terrible person for trying to avert disaster, and yeah. Um, I'm legit. Team They Must Be Together Forevs but Jesus.
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Team They Must Be Together Forevs but Jesus
THIS NEEDS TO BE AN ICON.
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Without you, I would still be quietly grumbling to myself into the ether. Well, except for the gun thing; I think I started discussing that before you, but EVERYTHING ELSE...
...I kind of want to write in your proposed world that already has telepathy pamphlets, you know. But it would be SO BIASED.
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Um.
But also, killing! Is bad! Always! Well almost always.
Mm...gunporn.
Sorry I know you said meta but in my head gun is always associated with porn.
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but would the amount of gunporn EVER be sufficient? probably not. that said, I like my gunporn with lots of EMOTIONS.
All Teams are valid, but Team THEY ARE BOTH DICKS does have some especially excellent arguments.
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WHAT IS YOUR PLAN AT ALL, ERIK.
Have a kit kat, maybe. I CANNOT GET OVER THIS.
But, I mean, yeah. It's sort of like, he kills Shaw, and then he is totally unprepared to deal with Shaw being dead (has Erik thought about the future at all previously, at all, no, I don't know so--c'mon, Erik, you blind furious baby, you) so he's like...I WILL FLIP OUT HARDER AND BE VIOLENT EVERYWHERE NOW. CLEARLY THIS WORKED OUT FOR ME THE FIRST TIME, SO.
If someone just, like, punched him in the mouth and knocked him out, dude, and then they got him a blanket and a cup of hot chocolate, there would be no super villainy. Oh, Erik. I feel for you, yet I feel that mostly you just need to take a fucking nap, okay.
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