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shineyma October 15 2011, 18:49:38 UTC
There was Caroline being all bossy and control freaky and adorable (GUH, THAT GIRL) and Elena and Bonnie teasing her from the sidelines (Bonnie’s ‘srsly’ look at “Caroline’s making us do it” was A++++). ELENA WAS LAUGHING AND AMUSED AND SEVENTEEN (and when she repeated what Caroline’s obviously been badgering into their heads, I literally went ‘awww’). Tyler was all jock arrogance and ‘don’t tell anyone I hang out with you guys’ and Matt was actually chill about the whole thing.

THAT WAS THE MOST ADORABLE SCENE IN THE HISTORY OF ADORABLE SCENES. I loved it. I also loved Caroline's cute little 'I love you!' to Elena as she was leaving. So adorable. <3

He would have done it for Katherine. That’s the thing with Damon; he loves with an intensity that is almost frightening sometimes. I agree completely. Maybe it's just me, but I tend to look at all of Damon's interactions with Katherine as being SEEPED IN DENIAL. Damon totally would've done it for Katherine, he knows he would've done it for Katherine, but he doesn't want to admit it ( ... )

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shineyma October 15 2011, 18:50:50 UTC
But he doesn't want to lose, and certainly doesn't want to lose, so he's living in denial.

That was supposed to say "certainly doesn't want to admit he's losing"

Fail.

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youcallitwinter October 20 2011, 16:47:44 UTC
Oh, now being able to edit on LJ is the worst thing ever, ugh. Although I also totally didn't notice :P

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youcallitwinter October 20 2011, 16:46:51 UTC
I’M SORRY I’M LIKE INSANELY LATE WITH THIS REPLY. Real life sucks for intruding on fandom time D:

I loved it. I also loved Caroline's cute little 'I love you!' to Elena as she was leaving. So adorable. <3

THAT SCENE WAS SO PRESH. Like, I adore them being teenage girls for once and giggling and being all “love you!” (seriously, that’s pretty much all we do in college anyway).

but I tend to look at all of Damon's interactions with Katherine as being SEEPED IN DENIAL.

Oh, definitely! Like, in canon Damon was in love with Elena at least from Isobel onwards (or well, he didn’t refute it at the time!) but he was still willing to “forget everything” for Katherine as late as The Return and his passive-aggressive divaesque behavior only started after that. (Which, adorable, heh). I love how Damon CANNOT handle Katherine at all, he doesn’t know how to be with her, because he’s severely disadvantaged since she knows he was madly in love with her, so he overcompensates by trying to show her how much she DOESN’T mean to him now. Which might ( ... )

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youcallitwinter October 20 2011, 17:38:52 UTC
[Man, I'm so late with the replies, sorrry] Also, I love your icon, it's so pretty!

I love it when their scenes are soft and sort of, I don't know, quiet? All the times when they don't actually say anything significant, but it's just the expressions and the way the words are said that transform the scene, even if they're just snarking. My actual favorite D/E scene in this respect from the third season was the necklace scene and I remember writing a huge "OMG, THIS SCENE, OMGOMG" post. I'd thought I'd dislike it for being so typical, but Ian MADE that scene for me, his "it's your birthday, you can cry if you want to." NEVER GETTING OVER IT.

Maybe that's on the Salvatore family crest? ;)

Haha, man, their crest should be the universal symbol for dysfunction.

I really expected Stefan to kill them under the circumstances, and I was disappointed when they didn't go there.Totally agreed. Like, I understand not wanting to hurt Elena and I'm completely fine with it, but with all the killing he's been doing (he also killed Andie, someone ( ... )

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xx_pinkstar October 15 2011, 20:51:46 UTC
I CAN'T EVEN BECAUSE I AGREE WITH EVERY WORD ON THIS POST

EVEN ESPECIALLY THE ABSOLUTELY DEFINITELY NOT SHIPPING OF KLAUS/REBEKAH

NO CURR WHAT ANY1 SAY, KLAUS’ “My Girl” WAS FOR REBEKAH IN MAH BOOK.

NGL I WAS TOTALLY ABOUT TO MAKE A POST SAYING THE SAME THING, YOU AND I, WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE BRO.

IN OTHER NEWS MY BB KLAUS NEEDS TO MAKE OUT WITH EVERYONE his sister ...and his brother

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youcallitwinter October 20 2011, 17:42:21 UTC
*dramatic look* IT'S YOUR BRAIN AND MY BRAIN, ALWAYS. (Man, this show has so many 'forever and always' moments and it always makes me LOL).

OKAY, IT'S KIND OF SAD HOW MUCH I SHIP REBEKAH/KLAUS? BUT SERIOUSLY, SHE'S THE BRATTY YOUNGER SISTER AND HE'S THE KIND OF GUY WHO'S ALWAYS SUPER POSSESSIVE. I JUST WANT KLAUS GETTING JEALOUS OF STEFAN RE: REBEKAH FIC. WHAT IS MY LIFE EVEN? D:

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xx_pinkstar October 20 2011, 20:28:29 UTC
I HAVE SUCH A POSSESSION KINK NGL AND KLAUS HAS JUST GROWN ON ME LIKE 80% SINCE SHE CAME ALONE. ME AND YOU CAN ENJOY HELL TOGETHER BB.

*cough*http://incoherent-muse.livejournal.com/27615.html*cough*

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youcallitwinter October 21 2011, 15:25:02 UTC
SO DO I AND I REALLY CAN'T WAIT FOR ELIJAH TO COME BACK AND SEE HOW THE DYNAMIC CHANGES. ORIGINALCEST FTW :D

OMG, OMG, OMG, FIC. I NEED TO READDD!

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aerintine October 15 2011, 21:32:13 UTC
NEVER APOLOGIZE FOR GIVING US ALL YOUR THOUGHTS. WE WANT MORE. MORE MORE MORE FOREVER.

CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A SPIN-OFF OF THESE GUYS FROM, LIKE, MIDDLE SCHOOL ONWARDS, SO WE CAN HAVE SCENES LIKES THIS THAT LAST LONGER THAN THREE SECONDS?

This is the best spinoff idea I've heard to date. Saved By the Bell, Mystic Falls Edition. Good grief. They've even got the type-casting down. Elena and Matt would totes be Kelly and Zack. Caroline as Jessie. Tyler's just dying to be the Slater of the group, and Bonnie would of course move into the role of Lisa. Alaric could arrive in town a few years earlier and be Mr. Belding. That just leaves Screech. Poor Jeremy and Vicki, one of them is going to have to take one for the team... /it's possible I took that to way too far of a logical conclusion. Whatever. I want Tyler in MC Hammer pants with a mullet.

He’s actually like a child who’ll do whatever it takes to get what he wants. And that’s scary because, as Marquez said in Chronicle, only children are capable of anything (they can be ( ... )

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aerintine October 15 2011, 21:32:27 UTC
The power relation is very, very obvious. Elena can never have a status equal to that of Damon’s in a relationship unless he stops snapping like this, or she gets turned. She might have the emotional power, but physically, he’s the one in charge whenever he wants to be. And it’s VERY IMPORTANT to tackle this head on.

Great insight. They also need to address the emotional power imbalance between Elena and either of the Salvatores - which they have been getting better at over the seasons. Both brothers can control Elena's mind and emotions if they so choose (unless of course, she takes to ingesting vervain, which perhaps she has and Show hasn't commented on it). Show has been unflinching about its vampires manipulating and controlling people's thoughts, emotions, and actions - as well as always retaining the ability to overcome humans physically. It's a very hard task to get past all that without becoming incredibly problematic. I've liked where they're going with it so far.

Caroline/Candice has the most beautiful smile ever. It’ ( ... )

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youcallitwinter October 21 2011, 12:27:51 UTC
Show has been unflinching about its vampires manipulating and controlling people's thoughts, emotions, and actions - as well as always retaining the ability to overcome humans physically. It's a very hard task to get past all that without becoming incredibly problematic. I've liked where they're going with it so far.

Oh, exactly!! It’s like, yes, they love her and they’d do anything for her, but the possibility that things might change someday still remains. I never pay close attention whenever someone on this show uses the words ‘never’, ‘forever’ or ‘always’, because if their life experiences haven’t taught them yet that forever is TOTALLY relative and subjective, then they haven’t learned anything at all. Like, I’m not going to go crazy over Damon’s “I will never leave you again” or Stefan’s “I will always protect you” to Caroline, because they can’t. And I like that, it shouldn’t BE about the guys being there for the girls, but about the girls being able to handle themselves. That’s always a good message to take from a show ( ... )

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youcallitwinter October 21 2011, 12:15:44 UTC
NEVER APOLOGIZE FOR GIVING US ALL YOUR THOUGHTS. WE WANT MORE. MORE MORE MORE FOREVER.

AND NOW I HAFVE TO APOLOGIZE FOR BEING SO FREAKING LATE. I AM THE WORST EVER. Totally haven’t seen the new episode yet D:

Also, I WANT YOUR BRAIN. Because Saved By The Bell: Mystic Fall Edition? YOU SHOULD TOTALLY WIN SOME SORT OF AWARD FOR THAT. And that totally calls for crack!fic, js.

I can rekindle my love for him on this. Rebekah I'm still very meh about because she reminds me of every shallow, useless girl I went to high school with who were catty towards other girls and didn't care about anything but material things. Though, if she and Klaus start making out, I could start to REALLY like her. ;)

Oooh, I know, right? CAN YOU NOT SEE HER BEING ALL “Uh, stop trying to make fetch happen, FETCH WILL NEVER HAPPEN.” But she seriously has that general level of brattiness, definitely. I suppose I might have disliked it if she was a high-school girl, cuz then she’d just be Every Mean Girl Ever (except in actual Mean Girls, because NOTHING tops ( ... )

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wheatear October 15 2011, 21:39:54 UTC
Klaus/Elena was hot, ngl. Just, really good chemistry there.

Yes. Yes, it was.

JEREMY/KATHERINE, THE SHIP THAT YOU NEVER KNEW YOU WANTED TO BOARD TILL NOW.

I was totally on board ever since she killed him in the tomb. /shipping all the twisted pairings

Also, I can believe “you don’t do it for me anymore”, but his “I wouldn’t have done it for you” literally made me LOL. I know it was some sort of an Elena vs. Katherine on Damon’s Love Scale reference, but I don’t buy that at all. He would have done it for Katherine.

Haha, I had the exact same reaction. He did do it for Katherine. He died for her. Damon is fooling no-one there.

Totally agreed on everything you said about Damon/Elena. And with Stefan, yeah... total cop-out. I was not too happy.

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youcallitwinter October 20 2011, 17:49:59 UTC
Hahaha, I think when I first watched the tomb scene, I was on my 'I only watch for Damon/Elena kick' (which lasted a long, long while, ngl. Although also because I saw the entire series till 2x11 in a week, so maybe not that long?) which is why I probably totally failed to see the chemistry. But the creepy incestuous vibe, along with the million years age difference and power inequality? SO ON BOARD.

Haha, I had the exact same reaction. He did do it for Katherine. He died for her. Damon is fooling no-one there.

Except most of fandom who'll totally be gushing about it being an indication of his "pure wuv" for Elena, heh. But honestly, his passive-agressiveness towards a mostly provocative Katherine is never not hilarious.

You know, somehow I'm beginning to think that Stefan hasn't switched it off, he's just acting his heart out. UGH, I HOPE SO, AT LEAST D:

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