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Jul 12, 2011 09:17

[Video flickers onto Izaya at his desk. This should become a pretty usual scene by now, guys. He's spinning around in his chair, laughing his ass off. But for once, the laughter seems completely genuine rather than his trademark insane laughter.]

I love this city, I LOVE THIS CITY~! The people, the sights, the sounds! Nya~!

[He stops abruptly and ( Read more... )

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[Video] threeofthree July 12 2011, 17:16:26 UTC
[ Ran's expression is impassive as he responds, tone perfectly calm. ]

I think they found safer methods of brain surgery some years ago.

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thetrollprince July 13 2011, 14:30:11 UTC
[Izaya catches this. As much as he feels the need to prob Ran for information, Ran hasn't done much picking at him. He can only return the favor.

He'll ask later.]

Yes. We are. Humans are pack animals by nature. It's why we have things like mob mentalities and trends. Granted, one can obviously still break from those things but it is difficult for the individual at first. There are few animals in the world that prefer the solidarity lifestyle.

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threeofthree July 13 2011, 14:36:20 UTC
There are.

[ Ran gives Izaya a short grin. ]

And even then...those animals will find company in order to mate, if nothing else.

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thetrollprince July 13 2011, 14:38:07 UTC
Exactly. I think the only creature that depends purely on itself is the creature that produces asexually. And I am not about to give such trivial creatures the satisfaction of being compared to humans.

Do you think that everyone is destined to eventually love at least one person? Or..find a counterpart in someone?

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threeofthree July 13 2011, 14:43:23 UTC
I would not, either. Even if they are fascinating in their own way, I do not think they can compare.

[ Ran pauses, growing thoughtful again. ]

Find a counterpart... no. But love at least one person? Hmm.

I have never met someone who loved no one. Even those who fed off hate and violence...they loved. Their love was not gentle, nor kind. It was a selfish emotion, but in the end, it is still love.

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thetrollprince July 13 2011, 14:52:24 UTC
[He tilts his head. Curious.]

I've never loved anyone.

[He's not trying to sound like a broken record. Really, it's just an interesting topic to him. He comes from a city very focused on relationships, platonic and romantic, forgive his interest~.]

What do you mean those who fed off hate and violence loved?

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threeofthree July 13 2011, 15:01:50 UTC
No one at all?

[ His interest is quite forgiven. This is one of the more fascinating conversations Ran has experienced. ]

You see, love does not have to be a sweet thing. It can be very cruel. I know of a man so in love with another he hunts him down whenever he gets the chance, and keeps his severed right hand in a jar in his room. I also know of one so possessive he would kill anyone he thought his object of affection loved more than him.

They love through sadism and control, but there is still no denying that they are enamored.

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thetrollprince July 13 2011, 15:08:37 UTC
[He thinks about this question. But then shakes his head.]

No. Nor have I really ever had a 'crush' or anything juvenile to love like that.

[He listens intently and...Is actually very fascinated.]

Heh. Reminds me of a head in a jar I know of...Is that one man you know of here? Is it strange that I can relate to that man on a certain level? I understand the obsession of hunting someone down whenever you get the chance. Hehehaaa..Nn.

No. There is not. Obsession and passion are pretty vague things aren't they? They can be applied to so many definitions and meanings but they all essentially mean the same thing.

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threeofthree July 13 2011, 15:26:50 UTC
What about platonic love? None for family?

[ Ran's look is more questioning now. ]

The person you hate? Why do you despise him so much, to spend so much of your time on him?

Basically, yes. And hate and love are not mutually exclusive.

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thetrollprince July 13 2011, 15:37:10 UTC
[He taps his chin. For his family? For a moment, he thinks of his mother. But.]

No.

[He tilts his head to the side and a weird sort of expression fills his face. What a big question to ask.]

He...[He's never been asked so directly, so calmly before. He suddenly doesn't know why he hates Shizuo.]

Tch. For one thing...[Hesitation.]

Well. [C'mon.] He's an idiot. Talking to him is the equivalent of talking to a pile of bricks. He's a social handicap. And he's not human. Okay..well genetically he is, considering he has blood type O which ironically the same blood type as myself, but he's such..He has this tremendous strength. Like nothing I've ever seen before...Well before coming to Vatheon at least. Can't even feel a gunshot- he's such a freak. And such an explosive rage ontop of it..

But worst of all, Shizu-chan is unpredictable. [He sneers. It's probably the first time Ran has seen a negative expression on Izaya's face.] And I hate that. He's the stupidest creature alive and yet.

[A big sigh.] He's probably the smartest at the ( ... )

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threeofthree July 13 2011, 16:34:10 UTC
[ What a strange life Izaya must lead. Ran listens quietly and intently, noting all of this. Ran has never met someone who does not love before, but he does not think Izaya incapable of it; someone who can hate with such passion can love with such passion, in his opinion.

When Izaya finishes, he nods slowly. ]

He sounds like an interesting character.

[ It is the only judgment Ran will make. He does not know Izaya well, or Shizuo at all; how can he tell if the hate is justified or not? However, it is quite...curious. ]

I merely meant I think it is quite possible to feel both for a single person.

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thetrollprince July 13 2011, 16:37:13 UTC
[He huffs.]...Well that's one word for him...

[He stares at the screen for a little bit and then grimaces.]

Really? How would that ever possibly work?

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threeofthree July 13 2011, 16:49:13 UTC
Is he here?

[ Hmm. How best to explain this? Well. While they are being honest. ]

Let me use the examples of the men I told you I knew before. Bols is the name of the man who keeps my friend's severed hand. I claim he loves Kazuhiko, and he does. Yet he is also his enemy. He hates that Kazuhiko wins against him. He hates his skill, being unable to defeat him, unable to possess him. So whenever they meet he will try and destroy him, bit by bit.

[ A pause. What harm would it be to continue on? ]

The other case... is my brother. He loves me more than any one else in the world. He wants nothing more than to own me, completely. And yet, he hates me. He hates that I refuse to kill for him, hates that I left him. He despises me for looking at other people, and blames me for the fact that he cannot have me in the manner he wishes. If I stayed near him for too long... eventually his hate would overtake his love for me, and he would kill me, too.

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thetrollprince July 13 2011, 17:08:55 UTC
...No. No he's not.

[He looks off camera and his face is serious yet again. But he quickly resumes his grin. Right. Enough of that.]

Whoa.

[This was pretty extreme- but...Was it really that much different from some of the things he experienced? He wasn't judging the guy.]

Did your brother have an incestuous obsession for you?

[He's not even mocking him. Firstly, his secretary was in love with her brother. Secondly, his sisters like to kiss each other sometimes. He's pretty used to this.]

I think I understand. These types of hate and love that you speak about...They...

[...For once, Izaya is fairly speechless. He's just trying to comprehend something to say. Anything really. His mind is a bit of a blank because now he just can't stop thinking about hate and love. Two things he usually doesn't combine in the same sequence of thought. Ah that's it!]

I don't like to categorize hate and love within each other. Or together. It's too much like saying they are reflections of each other. I try to think of them as separate qualities.

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threeofthree July 14 2011, 05:21:31 UTC
Yes, he does. He is regrettably psychotic.

[ The way Ran says it, it sounds like a simple statement, but there is a sadness in his eyes. It soon gives way, however, as Izaya returns the conversation to the idea of love and hate. ]

Why is that? I think they could easily be considered related, if not reflections of one another.

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thetrollprince July 14 2011, 13:56:01 UTC
Ah...That's unfortunate.

[He's not very good with 'sorrys' and what do you really say to someone who has a brother that's madly in love with them? Emphasis on the mad.]

Eh. Well. Tch. Simple!

[Of course it was.]

I don't want to be capable of....hating humanity as a whole but also loving it in the same respect. I don't like the contradiction of that. Sure I can hate humans individually but to hate humanity as well as love it...?

[And he looks perplexed, staring above the camera.]

It sounds like a paradox. That you can hate something with your whole heart but love it so furiously that you're a bit insane about it. It sounds like something out of the realm of control. I don't like not being in control.

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