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Jul 12, 2011 09:17

[Video flickers onto Izaya at his desk. This should become a pretty usual scene by now, guys. He's spinning around in his chair, laughing his ass off. But for once, the laughter seems completely genuine rather than his trademark insane laughter.]

I love this city, I LOVE THIS CITY~! The people, the sights, the sounds! Nya~!

[He stops abruptly and ( Read more... )

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[Video] threeofthree July 12 2011, 17:16:26 UTC
[ Ran's expression is impassive as he responds, tone perfectly calm. ]

I think they found safer methods of brain surgery some years ago.

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threeofthree July 14 2011, 14:49:48 UTC
It does sound like a paradox, but is it, really?

[ Ran tilts his head to the side. ]

Love and hate are both extremes. Not polar opposites so much as simply both different ways of feeling extreme passion for something. And where emotions are concerned, I think everyone is somewhat helpless. I cannot help but love my brother, though he has done horrendous things, to me and others. I do not think he nor Bols can control either their love or their hate.

[ He considers for a moment longer. ]

Yet at the same time, one must realize that it is not normal to be like them, to be capable of such obsessive passion. That sort of lack of control comes from madness, I think.

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thetrollprince July 14 2011, 14:57:34 UTC
Depends.

[Izaya spins around in his chair so he's completely out of sight from the lens.]

Obsessive passion...Hn. I've been told I'm obsessed.

I wonder, do you think that there's a fine line between hate and love? That it blurs sometimes? Do you really think humans are so helpless to their own emotions like that? All of them?

Ah...I agree with you on that part. I do not think that love or hate can be controlled. You can't force yourself into love or hate..Or out of it. Kind of a shame, huh? Even me...I'm a victim to that.

[A laugh. It sounds a little bitter.]

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threeofthree July 14 2011, 15:14:51 UTC
Perhaps you are. Yet I do not think it is always a bad thing. Having something to focus our energy, something we are absolutely certain of: it gives us ambition, doesn't it?

...hmm.

Not exactly. I think both love and hate have their own criteria. To love someone, there must be a reason to love them. To hate someone, there must also be a reason. Yet I believe there are few things in the world that would cause both hate and love all at once.

Humans are complex. The reason we can hate and love another at the same time is because we love some pieces of them, and despise others.

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thetrollprince July 14 2011, 15:29:13 UTC
Really?

[He spun around in his chair.]

Do you really think that you actually need reason to hate or love someone? You don't think that you can love or hate someone the moment you see them but for reason unknown- only to later conclude why with reasons you've developed through your own experience with them?

Humans are both complex and the very definition of simple. Their reactions are practically preordained due to consistent chemicals in the brain and their natural mentality that is pegged as 'normal'. They are complicated to a certain degree and yet so easy to unfold or put together much like a puzzle. They're so interesting because of their complexities though because it is only when we obscure the simple with the abnormal that things can be considered 'complicated'. Right? It's only complicated because people can't understand it. Thus not necessarily making it complicated so much as difficult to accept.

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threeofthree July 14 2011, 15:48:07 UTC
Because the reason is unknown does not mean there is no reason.

[ That certainly makes him think. He leans forward, propping his chin on the back of his hand. ]

Easy to unfold or put together...? Humans are creatures of habit, yes. And I suppose you are correct in saying that if you can understand and accept the way a person thinks, and why they think that way, you can predict them.

But do you truly think it is possible to understand someone in their entirety? Do you think in the end, all humans are simple in the same manner? We can live with someone all our lives, even be connected directly to them, feel everything they feel, and for all our knowledge about them we are not omnipotent in regard to them.

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thetrollprince July 14 2011, 15:57:19 UTC
Ah yes. You can arrange them properly with the right words and sentiment. Or you can take them apart with the exact same method. Destroy them or create them- it's easy to do either, don't you think? [Or maybe it was just him.]

Yes. I do. Once you learn about a human it is rare to see them change their mentality or ways unless something drastic occurs. Yes, I think. All humans have the exact same function when you break it down. The same concrete set of emotions. Maybe...It is a bit more difficult to say on that front but genetically and chemically speaking, it would appear to be that way.

I can honestly say that I don't know much about that. I do not believe one could live entirely with another like that. No two humans can compliment and contrast and constrict together in such a deeper way. I do not think that those type of relationships are real.

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threeofthree July 16 2011, 14:35:53 UTC
Yes, if one has a desire too.

[ Though he has no desire, pure survival instinct made him very adept at knowing the right way to manipulate A's emotions. ]

The same set of emotions, yes. Yet experience and personality can effect how those emotions are expressed and when so drastically...it would take a very intelligent person to be able to predict everyone they met.

[ He nods at the screen. ]

That is what I mean. I do not think even someone who could read thoughts as if they were spoken word could truly be able to guess everything about a person. You were talking of manipulation: yes, one can manipulate a person, and even be very good at it. Good at predicting reactions, knowing just how their words and actions will be interpreted. Yet ever prediction...it is a gamble. However, small, there is always the risk that the other will react in a completely unexpected manner.

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