Re: the weight debate building. (this is about eating issues, not medical conditions)

Sep 16, 2008 11:37

As someone who was groomed by her mother to have a specific body type, and ridiculed publicly when I didn't have that, as someone who was told by her father that it looked like I had a tire in my waist band, as someone that was an exercise bulimic in her late teens and was grey-faced and wan from being unhealthy, as someone who watched her best ( Read more... )

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secondalto September 16 2008, 18:05:41 UTC
*APPLAUDS*

Personally I have an approximate size and weight goal. This is mostly due to the fact that I gained heavily with my first pregnancy. I worked my ass off to lose that and got damned near my goal when I got hurt at work and put some of it back on. I was not angry with how much I weighed, but wanted to lose for health reasons. Now with the second pregnancy I'm glad that I haven't ballooned up again (mostly thanks to me doing a lot of walking in the early months). Once the baby is born, I'll work hard again to lose, but I'm not aiming for one set weight or size. If I get around that target I'll be happy enough.

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stoney321 September 16 2008, 18:50:41 UTC
Oh my god with the baby weight gain. I hear you. And that's terrific that you're exercising so much with this pregnancy! That'll make delivery sooooo much easier.

It sounds like you have a very healthy attitude about your body. Which means that you'll teach that to your kids. Awww, how awesome!

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brunettepet September 16 2008, 18:14:36 UTC
I didn't know there was a debate afoot, but as a woman whose food and weight issues stem from my mother's unhealthy relationship with food and dieting, go you for giving your girls a firm foundation to build on.

Although, I will say food should always be delicious. In my house, it's the law. It's just a good thing I find fruits and vegetables delicious. It's too bad my husband finds Captain Crunch and Tater Tots delicious, too!

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stoney321 September 16 2008, 18:53:45 UTC
Eh, it's starting to pop up on my flist, and I was getting bothered by the hypocrisy. (IT's okay to be mad at someone who's thin, but thin people can't comment on not-thin, etc.)

It's not easy to keep my mouth shut when I see my #2 reaching for seconds. I have to remember she's growing, going through puberty, and most importantly: SHE LIKES HERSELF. (I'm getting a little choked up here.) Those horrible lessons our parents taught us...

HAhAHAHA: food SHOULD always be delicious! I second that. And my kids love the stuff I feed them, because that's what I feed them. *G* (That's what I always tell my friends that have finicky kids. If all there is to eat is veggie stir fry, they'll eventually it eat.)

(Ugh, i find tater tots good, too. But once I've had them, I don't need them again for a looooong time.)

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poshcat September 16 2008, 18:34:52 UTC
I just want to smack your parents. Espcially because you're so amazing inside and out. I've seen you in real life! I know, baby!! (I mean inside your soul, by the way, not your, like, guts. Not that they're not amazing, too.)

Did I tell you my sister is trying to teach her 10 year old daughter not to lick her plate in public like the three of them do at home? We figure my niece is about 135 lbs. Sigh.

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stoney321 September 16 2008, 18:55:27 UTC
Pfft, quit fronting. You know you're in love with my guts. I've got the sexiest duodenum around, baby.

....what. WHAT?! Lick their plates? Well, I guess you can say that mom makes good food they can't get enough of? Yipes. At least she's trying to stop that habit? (I'm out of words, Poshy!)

And you, Missy, are cute as a button. Especially in form-fitting blue dresses. Rawr.

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lolz September 16 2008, 18:46:27 UTC
Oh my Lord, by no exaggeration at all I swear what you just said is the tiny part in my brain that has been YELLINGSCREAMING at me to get healthy. For the last 3 months, no, that's a lie, for as long as I can remember I've been trying to get myself motivated to get to the gym. Honestly, 15lbs, that's all I need. There's people out there that need to loose 100lbs and they do it, so 15 should be a piece of cake, right? I'm not insanely overweight by any means (I'm 23, 5'2, 135lbs). But I'm the heaviest I've ever been, which is depressing. And I know that with the decisions I've been making I'm tip-toeing on that overweight line ( ... )

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stoney321 September 16 2008, 18:59:42 UTC
I think that when it is a small amoubt, you find all sorts of ways to justify why it's no big deal. And honestly, it's not. BUT! If it's bothering YOU and keeping you from feeling good about yourself, then go for it!

(Dude. The easiest way to lose 5-15 pounds? Stop drinking sodas. no lie. Even the diet ones.)

You know, you should find something that makes you feel like a bad ass, or sexy. Kickboxing or a pilates class, or something like that. I play music that makes me feel fierce when I work out, and it really, really helps. (I Like Big Butts by Sir Mix a Lot is a good choice. *G*)

Girl, all you need to do is tighten up. You can TOTALLY do that! *cheers you on!*

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lolz September 16 2008, 19:05:33 UTC
AH! LOVE YOU!
It's so true, I do justify it and say "Only 15lbs, no biggie" but soon it'll 16, then 17, oyvey!

I realllly wanted to do kickboxing, I just have to find that around here somewhere. I swear the 15lbs I need to lose is all thighs/ass so I need to find something where I won't gain muscle there and not lose the weight. A couple years back I was so good. I'd go to the gym every day and run for 40 minutes. I need that again! I had a girlfriend that would go with me every day so it was perfect. But now all my friends weight 6 ounces so no one will go with me, hah.

My birthday is in November. I'm determined to reach some kind of goal by then!

PS; THE ICON!!!!!! <33333

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rikibeth September 16 2008, 19:08:25 UTC
Your fierce != my fierce, but that's okay.

I'm all for KMFDM's "Juke-Joint Jezebel."

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dancetomato September 16 2008, 18:55:50 UTC
Being overweight, eating poorly, and not exercising is bad for you. What a shocker, eh?

Eating poorly and not exercising are bad for you. Being overweight: not necessarily so. I am morbidly obese, yet my cholesterol and blood pressure are fine. Overweight women can have better bone density than thin women. Fat women can be unhealthy or they can be tri-athletes. Waist to hip ratio is more indicative of heart disease than weight. A thin woman with little difference between waist and hip measurements is statistically more prone to heart disease than an hour glass woman whose BMI is 40. The BMI is seriously flawed and has little correlation with health at all.

I know you mean well. But I had to say something because the whole point of Health At Every Size is to get away from saying being overweight is, in and of itself, bad for you.

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stoney321 September 16 2008, 19:10:38 UTC
Is everyone overweight in poor health? No. Look at you: cholesterol and blood pressure are good, which is one of the problems for people who have poor health due to being overweight. But you can't deny that helath issues arise from being overweight DUE TO poor eating choices and lack of exercise ( ... )

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dancetomato September 16 2008, 19:37:49 UTC
But you can't deny that helath issues arise from being overweight DUE TO poor eating choices and lack of exercise.My issue is by singling out "overweight" due to poor eating choices and lack of exercise, you are in a subtle way giving the message "fat people can get thin if they just get their acts together." I have no issue with your statement if you also include "underweight due to poor eating choices" and "normal weight due to poor eating choices" and "obese due to poor eathing choices" and "morbidly obese due to poor eating choices." I know you have endeavored to include those other categories, but by having that sentence standing alone as a given contributes in small but real ways to weight prejudice ( ... )

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stoney321 September 16 2008, 19:50:47 UTC
I will add an addendum re: thin people to that sentence, if it didn't seem clear that I was also saying that thin doesn't mean healthy. I see your point, and can easily adjust that so I'm not singling out a specific type, absolutely ( ... )

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