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neadods June 22 2008, 17:25:24 UTC
Why does she have to be retconned or dead? We've had the noble suicide, so that's over. And the more I think about it, the more I like the theory that the bit from the beginning episode is Rose returning knowing that history is back on track, with Donna about to start adventuring with the Doctor as should be.

We know that CT only signed up for one season, but with the next "season" being only a series of specials, there's plenty of room and time for them to bring her back even if she didn't have the time to do another proper series of 13. So they don't even have the pressure of writing her out in two episodes.

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persiflage_1 June 22 2008, 17:30:21 UTC
Because RTD has said he's tying up all the Companions' stories so Moffat can have a clean slate to work from - and since Donna has said she wants to travel with the Doctor forever, and we know CT's not coming back for another full season, dead or retconned is the only logical way I can see for Donna to stop travelling with him.

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neadods June 22 2008, 19:30:57 UTC
That still doesn't mean the end of this season. RTD's doing the specials too, and I don't really see them doing three one-off companions or a Doctor-on-his-own.

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persiflage_1 June 22 2008, 19:32:26 UTC
I can easily see him doing one-off companions, given his propensity for them so far...

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theatervine June 22 2008, 20:55:01 UTC
This show makes me crazy. For every one thing they get absolutely right they f up 5 more. I'll still watch though.

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persiflage_1 June 23 2008, 04:12:09 UTC
I know what you mean!

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ziggychaos June 23 2008, 23:42:21 UTC
Got to see the episode this morning. Not too bad, but I think they could have done the same storyline without Rose in it. I mean, really, where the heck was she coming from when the light appeared? The parallel universe? UNIT in our universe? I didn't get that bit.

OK, UNIT accepted the Doctor as the Doctor, but would a top secret military organization accept somebody who doesn't give their name? Unless she was able to tell them things about the Doctor that convinced them? Or maybe Jack stepped in somehow?

As for Rose knowing how to reverse-engineer the TARDIS, I'm thinking (ahhh, dangerous ground, I know! :D ) that maybe the TARDIS may have helped her along there. Wasn't the old girl kind of responding, according to the one UNIT chick?

Looking forward to next week's episode, regardless. :)

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persiflage_1 June 24 2008, 04:29:18 UTC
Got to see the episode this morning. Not too bad, but I think they could have done the same storyline without Rose in it. I mean, really, where the heck was she coming from when the light appeared? The parallel universe? UNIT in our universe? I didn't get that bit.

I presumed that she was coming through from the parallel world somehow...

OK, UNIT accepted the Doctor as the Doctor, but would a top secret military organization accept somebody who doesn't give their name? Unless she was able to tell them things about the Doctor that convinced them? Or maybe Jack stepped in somehow?

I somehow doubt Jack was involved. I've no idea how Rose convinced UNIT - but I bet Rusty doens't know either!

As for Rose knowing how to reverse-engineer the TARDIS, I'm thinking (ahhh, dangerous ground, I know! :D ) that maybe the TARDIS may have helped her along there. Wasn't the old girl kind of responding, according to the one UNIT chick?

On reflection, I'm guessing it's the Bad Wolf link, and therefore the TARDIS-in-Rose...

Looking forward to next ( ... )

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ziggychaos June 24 2008, 12:43:22 UTC
I presumed that she was coming through from the parallel world somehow...

Ah, so it's Rose's fault the universe is getting destroyed, huh? Making the crack between parallel worlds bigger when the Doctor warned people it should be closed forever. Obviously, she didn't listen to a word he said, did she?

Are you? Lucky you!

Yeah, I'm curious to see what they do.

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persiflage_1 June 24 2008, 12:47:16 UTC
Ah, so it's Rose's fault the universe is getting destroyed, huh? Making the crack between parallel worlds bigger when the Doctor warned people it should be closed forever. Obviously, she didn't listen to a word he said, did she?

Well I don't think it is Rose's fault - I think it's whatever Mr Big Bad is doing that's opened the way up for her to come through...

Yeah, I'm curious to see what they do.

I'm curious but only mildly...

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