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xanguisettex January 25 2012, 13:46:21 UTC
Been on both sides of the fence, and any way that you go, judgment is constantly lobbed at you ( ... )

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flameelf January 25 2012, 13:48:30 UTC
I spent my entire youth being model-skinny and being told I wasn't beautiful (5'10" and 117 lbs.). I didn't have Russ Meyer type breasts, because I'm tall--and because normally, bigger breasts are on shorter women. It's about distribution, and basically I didn't have any. Playboy was slowly redesigning what people thought was sexy ( ... )

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skitten January 25 2012, 15:04:43 UTC
Hmmmm.... im about the same size you used to be ..... but I was told I was vfat and ugly. I look at the pictures now after having risen to 237, gone Don to 190. Slowly risen to 227 and now i've slowly gone down to 170. In high school I was just taller than all the girls and had curvy hips, not fat. I weighed 140.....
now im working on getting used to my size, height and most of all AGE.... because inevitably we all get older and that's the most prevalent thong focused on in advertising. Young is apparently the only thing allowed to be seen as sexy......

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flameelf January 25 2012, 18:11:58 UTC
As far as the sizes we used to be: I wasn't even remotely fat at 5'10" and 117 lbs. All my bones poked out, including my hips, and people thought I didn't eat enough. (They called me "gaunt".) That's what I meant about 'distribution'--my bones are long and large, so while I wore a size 5 or less in the trunk, my arms and legs would hang out if I didn't wear a much bigger size like 12 or 14. So, it was always swimming in my clothing or looking like I'd outgrown it all~! (Nordic/Alpine build) The same "bulk" on a smaller-boned figure would have appeared more hefty. I was never curvy until I got heavy ( ... )

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skitten January 25 2012, 18:17:04 UTC
misread- sorry- I was 140. I'm now 170, which according to my doctor is a good healthy weight.

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skitten January 25 2012, 18:23:16 UTC
well... the problem with this argument is thta if you aren't at a healthy weight you can juts dismiss all the medical profession when in fact carrying more weight does put strain on your heart. but it isn't required that you be some ideal target weight to make you perfectly healthy....
The ideal is to find a balance between eating right, exercising well & living well, yes you have genetic factors that cause obesity but there's nothing wrong with trying to work hard to become physically fit despite those genetic tendencies...
My parenbts both have diavetes II but I haven't gotten diabetes yet because it's diet & exercise managable. thre tricky piece of diasbetes is type II if it gets worse without management becomes type one- requiring an insulin pump & causing many qualilty of life issues. My thoughts are this: you need to take care of your body & doctors need to klook more deeply into the prevention of health problems rather than trying to enhance their checkbook.

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nimbrethil January 27 2012, 17:58:08 UTC
This. Its kind of off-topic, but I don't believe at all that heredity is the number one factor. Having a great deal of extra weight WILL cause a number of adverse effects on your body, everything from joint pain to breathing difficulties to extra strain on your heart, and other issues, and yes, being extremely overweight does put you at greater risk of certain conditions, including diabetes. Denying this is as stupid as it is pointless and deadly.

But this is not really what the discussion is about. How a person gets fat and whatever health problems are associated with being fat, real or imagined, are beside the point that it's nobody else's goddamned business how much a person weighs, and has zero bearing on that person's intrinsic value.

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skittenwench January 27 2012, 18:24:47 UTC
Oh I agree! I neither adhere to the "skinny equals pretty" model nor do I agree with the idea that just because someone is blessed with a faster metbolism than I an means I should hate her or decide that she is unnattractive.

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onlyonechoice January 25 2012, 14:05:08 UTC
Facebook'd and Tumblr'd. I've been trying to come up with a response to this and you've said everything I wanted to.

*chuckles* Priapic dog was inspired though :)

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staysonpaper January 25 2012, 14:53:50 UTC
THANK YOU. It's not always easy on the thinner side. Easier, yes, absolutely-- from the outside. But it isn't pretty in here, in my head. And it doesn't help to be simultaneously getting "you're-not-thin-enough" messages from society at large (mixed confusingly with "you-have-no-boobs-and-that's-ugly" messages), and "you're-too-skinny-we-hate-you" messages from other women with whom I would really like to have solidarity. We should all stop hating our damn selves, I hate myself for the same reason you guys do, and it's delusional and stupid for *all* of us. So. Yes. I deeply appreciate you

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staysonpaper January 25 2012, 14:56:34 UTC
Huh, that was odd. I deeply appreciate you calling out the fact that what is supposed to be a message of acceptance here, and should be, is in fact just switching sides to hate on. Thank you.

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