The legs of spring scissored open

[musesfool]

If you write (have written) in one (or more!) of these fandoms*, Remix needs youNew SPN tonight! I didn't get nearly as much writing done during the hiatus as I'd have liked, but since that seems to be the case for me all the time with writing now, I guess I'm just going to have to deal with it. I need to carve out more time for that, but it's hard

Comments

[lls_mutant]

I am so loving reading about your BSG rewatch :)

I totally agree about the big part of why I hate Lee/Dee. Billy's exit was so graceless (and I LOVED Billy/Dee- they were my original OTP of the show), and the formation of Dee and Lee's relationship was awkward. I like ficcing Lee and Dee, but on the show? Very lacking. (And yeah, I am so with you on Lee.) To be honest, I kind of feel about BSG like I did about HP- they write gen a lot better than romance :)

The thing that makes me saddest about the Pegasus in retrospect is that they had this chance to bring in some new characters (especially since they were starting to kill others off), and they didn't really take it. There are a lot of people on the Pegasus that could have been much more interesting (Narcho, Showboat, Hoshi, Stinger...), especially since they really started running short on humans later. And the Pegasus-Galactica interactions had some serious potential as well, and it never really came to fruition.

Ah well. That's what fic is for!

[musesfool]

Yeah, they'd really made Billy/Dee this sweet hopeful relationship, and then the way they ended it was just so poor. I thought the way Dee handled ending things with Billy was, as you say, graceless, and though I certainly cried a lot over him in Sacrifice, it felt like such a waste. And they didn't really do anything interesting with Lee/Dee. I feel like they had the idea, started writing it, realized they didn't know what to do with it, and ended up going for the quadrangle thing, instead of giving Dee something interesting to do.

There are a lot of people on the Pegasus that could have been much more interesting (Narcho, Showboat, Hoshi, Stinger...), especially since they really started running short on humans later. And the Pegasus-Galactica interactions had some serious potential as well, and it never really came to fruition.

*nod nod*

I would have liked to have seen more of Laird, actually. I thought that was an interesting story they never took anywhere.

[ingridmatthews]

Mmmmm. "Downloaded".

Caprica/Boomer. OMG, YES. God, I loved the potential for that pairing.

[musesfool]

Indeed! I feel like they also didn't know what to do with Boomer after that. Sigh.

[delle]

I love Lee. I LOVE LOVE LOVE Lee. That said, they wrote him terribly - it's as if Ron Moore just didn't know what to do with him after the first season/season-and-a-half.

I can't tell you how much it pisses me off when the PTB go 'oh, look, those two actors have chemistry, let's run with it' when it makes NO FRAKKING SENSE based on what we've already determined about these characters (Lee/Dee and Sayid/Shannon being my two biggest pet peeves). The resolution (or, more accuately, the LACK of resolution) for Billy/Dee was atrocious. I LOVED Billy/Dee - and, yes, the actor was leaving but why sink the Billy/Dee ship? They didn't need to make Dualla so flightly and cruel to Billy - if they were set on Lee/Dee they could have made that happen post-Billy.

I loved, and still love BSG. I just think there was potential for so much more and the writers/producers squandered it.

[musesfool]

Yeah, the lake of manpain was the first problem of many - Black Market was also a big WTF? They never seemed like they knew what they wanted to do with him, so they just threw a bunch of stuff to see what would stick. I miss the Roslin/Lee stuff from the early episodes, as well - there was a lot of potential there, and I don't even mean ship-wise.

They didn't need to make Dualla so flightly and cruel to Billy - if they were set on Lee/Dee they could have made that happen post-Billy.

Yeah, that just made Dee look bad and made us feel worse for Billy. The latter was probably the point, but it shouldn't have been done at Dee's expense.

I just think there was potential for so much more and the writers/producers squandered it.

They really did. All that s3 time spent on Baltar on the cylon ship could have been used for interesting things. Sigh.

[cadenzamuse]

I found myself being a really die-hard Kara/Lee shipper, so it's hard to divorce my S2 "my OTP is being shafted DIE DIE DIE" gut reaction from my opinions of the actual quality of the S2 arcs but...I wish Dee had gotten to be more than Lee's love interest. I feel like S1-early S2 she gets to do interesting stuff like pump her boyfriend for information for the admiral and help with a mutiny, but once the love quadrangle of doom comes in, she gets shoved to third-string action. Plus, I think if Dee was still doing badass communications stuff instead of just being an object to cause Lee angst, I might eventually have been won over to the Lee/Dee relationship. But it never felt like a relationship of equals, and I wasn't all that convinced by their chemistry, and so it ended up being just one more frustrating thing to fuel my Id Shipper Raaaage

[musesfool]

Before I actually watched the show, I figured I would be a Lee/Kara shipper, but Lee just never really pinged for me. I liked him a lot of the time, but when I didn't like him, I really didn't like him.

I think if Dee was still doing badass communications stuff instead of just being an object to cause Lee angst, I might eventually have been won over to the Lee/Dee relationship. But it never felt like a relationship of equals, and I wasn't all that convinced by their chemistry,

No, I agree. It seemed very pasted on to me. Whereas I got Kara/Anders, even if I didn't think they were necessarily right for each other.

I just get the feeling that Billy was supposed to be a Cylon sleeper agent, and I think that would have been a much more moving (and just plain interesting) arc than Tory sleeping with Gaius Baltar

I hear you. I feel like Tory was always set up to be untrustworthy, but to have Billy turn out of be a cylon would have been amazing.

i had forgotten i miss billy!

[quirkies]

billy! he was so adorable! i know i'm looking back at him with rose-tinted glasses but what i remember was a character with some depth. i feel like he believably juggled the tendency to cling to old habits (his job) and individual-sized issues (crushing on dee) with the understanding that the overwhelming horror had forever changed them all (shakily updating the population count). his moral crises - being that close to the president - would have been way more interesting to me than lee's. i know what's-her-name (tori?) needed some room in the spotlight but i wish she hadn't taken billy's.

Re: i had forgotten i miss billy!

[musesfool]

He did have depth, considering he didn't get a lot of screentime. And he was adorable, and he allowed us to see a side of Roslin we didn't see very often.

his moral crises - being that close to the president - would have been way more interesting to me than lee's.

I agree!