Memo to the new LJAB Member

May 31, 2008 22:10

Earlier today I posted the following message to our newly elected Live Journal Advisory Board member. I have not yet gotten a response back from her, but I am hoping that she may chose to either join our group or at the very least create a forum where we can express our goals and ideas to her for consideration by the board. I will update the ( Read more... )

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insomnia June 1 2008, 16:04:20 UTC
I left a message to LMM last week, encouraging them to do an interview in our community to address their POV regarding our platform, to address issues, etc.

No response yet, though.

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eruditeviking June 1 2008, 17:30:30 UTC
Responses from her are painfully slow for anyone not on her friends list from what I can tell.

Side Note: A number of our issues were at least partly dealt with by the new policy changes, and I was wondering if you wanted to go over them and make a post regarding those changes and propose the necessary updates to our charter goals.

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insomnia June 1 2008, 19:12:36 UTC
I don't think the new changes necessitate changing our goals, as those should be constant.

Judging from the changes, I see some real possibilities that their policy changes might actually lead to further restrictions against users.

They have, for example, indicated that they are actually expanding the definition of what is hate speech. But what if that's not really hate speech, per se, but parody, comedy, etc? What if it's the LJ equivalent of ginger kids? Or what about the example recently of a LJ user in Russia who faces imprisonment for suggesting that corrupt police be publically burned in town squares? Clearly, that's hate speech now too under these new definitions, even though it only focuses against corrupt cops -- criminals, essentially -- and not against any racial, ethnic, religious, or sexual orientation, as any true hate speech legislation would ordinarily be limited by. And again, no limits as to context ( ... )

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eruditeviking June 2 2008, 01:51:44 UTC
There was a reason I stated "partly", I see some slippery slope on a few of them, but a few issues were resolved to some satisfaction at least regarding the human breast. It's why I think we should post them up and go over them with more chance of getting some discussion about them here rather than just on the News post where it's to cluttered to follow much.

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eruditeviking June 1 2008, 17:28:10 UTC
It's funny how only a certain cabal of people assume we're some power grab organization setting about to make insomnia King of all of El Jay Land. Seriously, you need to get off your high horse and get a clue for a change because it's getting dull to listen to.

This group existed before the nominations, we didn't nominate any of our own members, and we still exist after the election. I realize nothing I say is going to make you change your mind, but at this point I don't really care. I'm just curious as to why you're bothering to hang around if you think we're only here for that purpose, which as you point out "failed". You don't believe in our goals, you've made that painfully obvious.

I'm well aware of you foray into legalese, and I can easily surmise where you are going with this line of thought. I just don't agree with you, and I surmise that neither will a court of law should it be taken so far.

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squnq June 1 2008, 17:37:22 UTC
It always amuses me how people's immediate reaction to contrary opinions of a community or journal is to go "well why are you here if you don't like it".

Anyways, the promises made by LJ back in the day were made by Livejournal when it was a separate entity and became invalid when it was purchased by another company (and another). No representative, rm or otherwise, was going to have any ability or influence to restore the creation of new basic accounts and the like. The current advisory board member, however, is so distant from the community that pretty much all organizations and communities on LJ which had their own agenda should be able to agree that the outcome was far from optimal.

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eruditeviking June 1 2008, 17:44:29 UTC
Generally I don't object to people with contrary opinions, however I do object to people spreading rumors and lies about the function and purpose of the community as a whole.

People over at Liberal (another community I'm part of) have Conservatives and that's fine. The conservatives don't go running off to say that we're secretly allied with the Nazis to bring Hitler back to life. Cambler has consistently been part of the cabal that is suggesting that this group is a sham or puppet whose purpose is covert and I rather object to that concept.

Now as to your own concerns, I understand your point of view, and I can't fault you on your logic regarding the situation. However that doesn't mean we don't keep trying to improve the situation as best we are able given the tools at our disposal.

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randomposting June 4 2008, 03:43:48 UTC
Did she ever respond?

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eruditeviking June 4 2008, 12:36:13 UTC
No, she has not.

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randomposting June 4 2008, 18:10:33 UTC
Let me feign surprise.

:(

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m03m June 5 2008, 06:26:51 UTC
*Everything* in her blog is flocked now. Even the 'Election post' that was public before, although comments were screened.
The silence is deafening.

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adameros July 23 2008, 19:38:11 UTC
I am hosting an unofficial referendum vote on legomymalfoy's accessibility and performance.

Please vote.

http://adameros.livejournal.com/2599937.html

Also, please have your friends vote.

[Edit: I said "official" as opposed to "unofficial" by mistake.]

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