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Jun 14, 2005 20:49


Guess what my OTHER current music is...the quiet murmurs of the 'rents in the adjacent room. They are more than extremely likely to be discussing me and our latest conversation. I must have picked a bad night to tell Dmom about England. Her reaction was the most unique yet...her first angle of offence was that I don't contribute financially to the ( Read more... )

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Input from the big brother you don't listen too. chiefokeefe June 15 2005, 13:09:53 UTC
Since you don't "Fear criticism" (as you quoted above) I am gonna be blunt. How can you say "Screw them" when they provide for you? You can only say that when you get off your butt and go out and support yourself. Ever heard "Don't bite the hand that feeds you"? It has a lot of spiritual and practical truths. If you are in someones house, you respect their opinions and desires. You haven't left their spiritual authority and they have every RIGHT to be concerned. Maybe they are worried. I would bet that your mother (the one you respect) is concerned about your safety too. Just because she hasn't vocalized it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. For the record, I am concerned that you are going across the world to spend time alone with a guy that you have been in physical contact with for maybe 3 weeks. This isn't a missions trip that God is sending you on. This is a trip for you to go spend time with your boyfriend. Don't put "God's will for your life" as the excuse for going without submitting it first to the spiritual ( ... )

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Re: Input from the big brother you don't listen too. chiefokeefe June 15 2005, 14:33:48 UTC
Just for the record, I did spend a pretty good hunk of time vocalizing about this trip. It was just in person and not in this forum. And I really tried to be wise in what I said. I've had a great many concerns about these plans as well. Linda, I think it would be wise to try to discuss with all your family members individually where you stand. It's so apparent that they all care VERY much about your well-being. And I'm sure you can benefit from their input. (Glad you spoke up, Tim.) Back to Linda....You may be convinced in your heart that this is right, but you need to keep a humble, respectful attitude in the face of opposition. How much sweeter any pursuit is when it's accompanied by the loving support of your family and not rancor. I suggest you add that into the equation ( ... )

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Re: Input from the big brother you don't listen too. chiefokeefe June 15 2005, 15:37:30 UTC
Mom is so smart. She thinks like me!! HAHA! :P

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Re: Input from the big brother you don't listen too. originalflummy June 15 2005, 16:18:54 UTC
c'mon tim, if mom actually thought like you, we would have been trained up the machiavelian way. nyah, i just funnin' ya.

and despite my encouragement linda, i have to admit, they have a point.

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I hope i am not stirring the kettle (or, *gulp*, making enemies) witch_queen June 15 2005, 19:09:46 UTC
I am almost afraid to comment on such a delicate topic ( ... )

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Re: I hope i am not stirring the kettle (or, *gulp*, making enemies) chiefokeefe June 15 2005, 20:39:10 UTC
OK. My last comment on this got an error, so I will attempt to repost. In order to look at this situation from your perspective I will analyze your comment from an atheistic perspective. In order to have a successful atheistic society we will need to slim it down to pure logic, tradition, and common attitude towards morality (since atheism assumes its own definition of morality). In an atheistic society I would assume that age = wisdom and therefore Linda would be forced to respect her elders and head there words. It is much like having a job. If you want to "express yourself" at your job and your boss doesn't want you to, then you will get fired or have to quit. The only problem with that is that you depend on that job for your survival. Linda is more that able (She is 19 by the way) to do what she wants (in all that lesbo empowerment way), but she has to be ready to accept the consequences of upsetting her "bosses". Since Linda has a different moral base than atheism, she is required by her "beliefs" to honor the words of ( ... )

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Re: I hope i am not stirring the kettle (or, *gulp*, making enemies) witch_queen June 16 2005, 01:24:44 UTC
Where did the "atheism" stem from? I'm not an atheist, i'm agnostic bordering on Christian. And i only included that comment b/c Linda knows that i am not a diehard Christian (not implying there is anything wrong with that). I am slightly offended, tho, that you would imply that an atheistic society would have different morals than a religious (ie Christian) one. Even if i were atheistic, anyone who knows me would tell you that my morals and behaviors are about as good as any Christian's- goodness knows that i hardly, if ever, disobey my parents! Moral character is based on the individual, not the religion, in my opinion (hope i continued the "educated debate" in an unoffensive matter ( ... )

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Re: I hope i am not stirring the kettle (or, *gulp*, making enemies) linny822 June 16 2005, 16:04:03 UTC
Liz, I appreciate your thought-provoking entry, and the fact that you can acknowledge both sides of the disagreement.

Ever considered working in mediation services? ;)

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And in Summary... linny822 June 15 2005, 23:53:32 UTC
Wow, where to begin ( ... )

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Its me, Erin . anonymous June 16 2005, 01:03:31 UTC
Everybody is so worried about you because we love you and want you to be safe!

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