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Jun 14, 2005 20:49


Guess what my OTHER current music is...the quiet murmurs of the 'rents in the adjacent room. They are more than extremely likely to be discussing me and our latest conversation. I must have picked a bad night to tell Dmom about England. Her reaction was the most unique yet...her first angle of offence was that I don't contribute financially to the ( Read more... )

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I hope i am not stirring the kettle (or, *gulp*, making enemies) witch_queen June 15 2005, 19:09:46 UTC
I am almost afraid to comment on such a delicate topic

When i first read your entry, minus what was obviously your family's input (:P) i think i may have agreed with you. Not sure if i agreed God had his hand in this- i think you know why i am unsure about that- but i admired the fact that you were willing to do something you wanted to do despite others' opinions. I for one am still working on living my life the way i want to and not worrying about what others think.

Then after reading all your comments, i realized what a duality reality we as women face. It is ideal that we go off and do our own thing and to love everything we do w/o having to worry what others think of us (women in particular are worried about and condemned more, i believe). But at the same time, b/c we are women and are the "weaker sex," unfortunately we are susceptible to violence at a higher rate than men.

I guess my point is that while it is important to take advantage of the great opportunities afforded to us and to enjoy ourselves, that it is also important that we do everything with discretion. I am thankful that at least you have met this kid before you travel across the ocean to see him, and i hope your family met him as well?

Hmmm, i think i might have more to say on the matter, but i need time to think about it and i probably need to hear more of the details.
Actually speaking of which, do you want to hang out sometime and talk this over, as well as other stuff? I haven't seen you in AGES. I'm free this Sunday and Monday if it helps, so let me know!

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Re: I hope i am not stirring the kettle (or, *gulp*, making enemies) chiefokeefe June 15 2005, 20:39:10 UTC
OK. My last comment on this got an error, so I will attempt to repost. In order to look at this situation from your perspective I will analyze your comment from an atheistic perspective. In order to have a successful atheistic society we will need to slim it down to pure logic, tradition, and common attitude towards morality (since atheism assumes its own definition of morality). In an atheistic society I would assume that age = wisdom and therefore Linda would be forced to respect her elders and head there words. It is much like having a job. If you want to "express yourself" at your job and your boss doesn't want you to, then you will get fired or have to quit. The only problem with that is that you depend on that job for your survival. Linda is more that able (She is 19 by the way) to do what she wants (in all that lesbo empowerment way), but she has to be ready to accept the consequences of upsetting her "bosses". Since Linda has a different moral base than atheism, she is required by her "beliefs" to honor the words of her spiritual authority. Regardless of her "expression of herself". Good comment though. I enjoy this educated debate :P

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Re: I hope i am not stirring the kettle (or, *gulp*, making enemies) witch_queen June 16 2005, 01:24:44 UTC
Where did the "atheism" stem from? I'm not an atheist, i'm agnostic bordering on Christian. And i only included that comment b/c Linda knows that i am not a diehard Christian (not implying there is anything wrong with that). I am slightly offended, tho, that you would imply that an atheistic society would have different morals than a religious (ie Christian) one. Even if i were atheistic, anyone who knows me would tell you that my morals and behaviors are about as good as any Christian's- goodness knows that i hardly, if ever, disobey my parents! Moral character is based on the individual, not the religion, in my opinion (hope i continued the "educated debate" in an unoffensive matter ;))

And, i never said Linda should disobey her parents' opinions. The point that i was trying to make is that her position is a rather sticky one. It is good to follow an elder's advice, yes, b/c a lot of times they have more experience than you do. But at the same time, it is important for a woman to learn to take care of herself and make her own choices- i really don't think anybody can become who they truly are and are meant to be if they never allow themselves to think for themselves. And parents will ALWAYS worry about their kids, whether you're 5, 10, 19, or 30. It's just the way of life. Rather incoherently, i am saying that i will be happy if Linda does what makes her happy, but that i really think she should listen to her family and take all necessary precautions, and do her best to help alleviate her parents' worries.

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Re: I hope i am not stirring the kettle (or, *gulp*, making enemies) linny822 June 16 2005, 16:04:03 UTC
Liz, I appreciate your thought-provoking entry, and the fact that you can acknowledge both sides of the disagreement.

Ever considered working in mediation services? ;)

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