House: 4.09 Games--they shoulda called this one on account of rain. Or stupidity.

Nov 28, 2007 09:19



The conclusion of last night's episode left me confused and disappointed and  angry  and irritable.  Oh, and did I mention confused?  Continuity gods, why dost thou continue to forsake us?  Our forgiveness for last season's Tritter arc wasn't a large enough sacrifice?

And speaking of arcs.  I enjoyed the Stacy arc.  *ducks*
I tolerated the Vogler arc ( Read more... )

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poorfrances November 28 2007, 17:15:50 UTC
I see your points, I really do. But I guess I have more hope than you do ( ... )

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kidsnurse November 28 2007, 17:36:03 UTC
i absolutely agree with each point you've made--and have [and am currently] exploring many of these points more deeply in my fiction. i suppose that what's bothering me is another point you mentioned--that the writers are giving us intriguing, exciting glimpses into the minds of both house and wilson--and then are glossing over them, or even [apparently] dropping them totally [thus far, anyway].

i suppose what i'm longing for is consistency--in plot, in characterization, in overall quality. and i'm optimistic that we'll get that. in the meantime, it's analyses like yours that make me remember that even when it's bad, House is still far better, in my opinion, than anything else on television--now, or ever.

I don't think the writers are going this way, but if you want to be REALLY REALLY dark it's almost as if House is trying to lay the groundwork to prepare Wilson for a life without House. oddly, that thought has occurred to me several times this season--and i've quickly discarded it each and every time. i enjoy angst, i write ( ... )

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poorfrances November 28 2007, 18:43:47 UTC
Er, please annoy my typos above. I'm tired (intriguining?).

i suppose that what's bothering me is another point you mentioned--that the writers are giving us intriguing, exciting glimpses into the minds of both house and wilson--and then are glossing over them, or even [apparently] dropping them totally [thus far, anyway].I think back to the revelation of Wilson's depression. There were subtle hints that there was something wrong, that Wilson was suffering from depression, before it was revealed that Wilson was actually on ADs. After that revelation, one can go back and actually see Wilson's progression. So that gives me hope ( ... )

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kidsnurse November 28 2007, 18:57:37 UTC
*smiles*

and if you're familiar with my fic, you already know we'll have to agree to disagree on house's dependence on opioids in order to function normally. i see the examples that you call 'addictive behavior' as pseudoaddiction, and as a direct result of his having been forcibly deprived of those opioids he needs to function. my own theory? house doesn't have a problem with vicodin--he's got a problem (a big one) without it.

House doesn't meet all the criteria, but I'm sure you're familiar with those "warning signs of suicidal behavior" lists.

did you know they're getting ready to make Denial the 51st state, based solely on how very quickly i scanned that part of your comment and went, "uh-uh--not House!" ;)

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popcorn_oracle November 28 2007, 18:46:14 UTC
I so second this _>. Ugly is what really botched my view for that though ( ... )

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kidsnurse November 28 2007, 19:45:22 UTC
mad with last nights episode! There was NO closure to that conflict, they just ended it there because there was no time! And you're right, just having House give him one of those looks that means everything at the end of it would have been sufficient!

and their final words to each other, as regards that conflict?
wilson: do your job.
house: no.

allll-righty, then. that was satisfying.

And you're telling me that in the 13 years or whatever the number it is that Wilson has been working there he's never seen someone mad finding out they're going to live? give me a break. Dream Wilson even references it in end of S2

and that S2 scene was so beautiful, so eloquent, that i've used it, or referenced it, several times in my own fiction; it's a prime example of how very well wilson understands house and the way he views the world.

just the lack of making up was fail

yup--and fanfic writers the world over [including me] are still attempting to correct that oversight. sigh....

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poorfrances November 28 2007, 20:11:52 UTC
To me there was a beautiful making up scene in "Words and Deeds," namely the apology. And then the final scene in jail was a nice capper, too.

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iamnotnormal November 28 2007, 18:51:07 UTC
I think that the biggest problem in the most recent episodes are that the writers are being spread to thin. As they've been trying to develop the new characters they've been trying to give everyone storyline and background and because of that they've been cutting storylines short. I'm hoping that when the show comes back, and hopefully if the WGA strike is over, that the writers will be able to go back to witty dialogue and catch us up on all the storylines they've been neglecting. I'm glad that the competition is over and the characters can start getting to know one another.

I'm upset about the whole Wilson-House dynamic disappearing recently. Hopefully it will get better, and the writers have a chance before we are all waiting until next fall due to the WGA strike.

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kidsnurse November 28 2007, 19:56:43 UTC
i have this lovely fantasy that when doris egan isn't out picketing, she's hard at work writing a three episode mini-arc wherein house and wilson pick up each of the loose threads left hanging around, and weave them into something credible, something beautiful and sharp and angsty and hilarious. and we get our house-wilson dynamic back. and every script writer who follows manages to maintain and strengthen their bond.

dream with me here. it's comforting.

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dreams or hallucinations? lilapaddy November 29 2007, 09:21:41 UTC
Whatever you're on, I want some.
< : )
As great as ol' St. Doris is, she explicitly stated on her LJ that she doesn't think a physical relationship between House and Wilson makes sense to her version of their relationship.

Which obviously doesn't preclude everything your dreaming about, it just precludes it involving...anything physical.

I just want a BGW episode, that's all. Can't I have it?

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Re: dreams or hallucinations? kidsnurse November 29 2007, 11:48:01 UTC
she explicitly stated on her LJ that she doesn't think a physical relationship between House and Wilson makes sense to her version

which is a large part of the reason i adore her! i don't know what you read into my dream--but i'm not a slasher. i'm not even a shipper! to me, the house-wilson dynamic doesn't involve romance; nor does it involve sex. i see the house-wilson dynamic as a bond that transcends that of brothers [to paraphrase a beautiful line from star trek--tos].

if you've ever read any of my fiction, you're aware that i don't write slash. never have. don't read it either. so i'm giggling, and a bit curious [okay--a lot curious] what made you think i was referring to sex? or to anything other than their amazing stupid, screwed-up friendship?

ETA: forgot to ask--what's BGW? [maybe i should know, but i haven't had coffee yet....]

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pffff5 November 28 2007, 19:53:01 UTC
As much as I hate to say that (didn't even imagine I'd say that sometime) I totally second what you've stated here. There's something rotten in the State of House MD now. Something confusing, incoherent, disturbing. I've got the feeling it's not the same hospital/docs/galaxy. I don't understand what is happening there. All I know is that Lawrence Kaplow left the show. He was the one who wrote the best episodes ever. Along with David Shore he gave the show its soul. Yesterday's writer was a new one. Seemed like he/she didn't even bother to watch the 3 first seasons. Where's House ? I want him back too. D*mn it !
Nonetheless and just like you, I'll keep on watching it. For HL & RSL.
We need a fic from you ! please ?
No pressure, the usual, take all the time you need :-)

side note : Bright side in "Games" : House was watching a soap and he played the piano (a little). Now we need the PSP, the motorbike, and Wilson moving back to House's place. And Stacy ?

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kidsnurse November 28 2007, 20:01:45 UTC
i am, in fact, working on an incredibly complex fic [no, not the sequel to tmtc, although i'm still making notes and creating scenes for that--it's still alive]. the new one is the most difficult thing i've ever written, and it's going to be either the most intense, most beautiful thing i've written--or it'll be pure garbage. there is no middle ground with this one. so we'll see.

hugh laurie at the piano is always a joy. and last night, i found it a comfort and a consolation as well.

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pffff5 November 29 2007, 18:00:30 UTC
I'm so happy to hear (read) that you've started to write again. Welcome back muses !
I'm totally confident about what is going to come out of it. And I'll be confident for two since you, as the writer, have to undergo the throes of creation.
I'm just a reader. I don't have to deal with doubts. My position seems comfortable. But believe me, for me it'll be no picnic : I'll have to endure the wait, taming my impatience. Tic toc tic toc. No picnic at all.
Have a nice day,
And thanks for the good news, you cheered me up !
;-)

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a little bit of good news [i hope] kidsnurse November 29 2007, 18:55:16 UTC
i've just--rather unexpectedly--written and posted a new one-shot, if you're interested.....

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brenda79 November 28 2007, 20:09:06 UTC
I've been trying to give the season/show a try each episode, but there are just things that just don't work for me. But I'm not saying everything has been bad, I've really loved some things. (Maybe it's the fact that I don't have a already made season dvd in my hand that's mixing me up.)

But here has been many confusing things, and also some things that could have been something big if they were used better. I mean IT WAS FINALLY LUPUS!
I really don't like the way House's has been. I can't even remember when he last popped a pill. I've even found myself missing all the gory scenes. I was so excited to see the rock star puke all over himself at the beginning.
I really did not understand 4:09. (I thank

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kidsnurse November 28 2007, 20:17:43 UTC
I'm probably thinking too much about the show

i'm laughing in complete empathy with that feeling--but hey, that's why we're all here, right? ;)

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