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May 26, 2008 22:43

This isn't directed at anyone in particular, just ranting. A secret on f!s today set me off. Normally I'm pretty chill and it takes some serious stuff to get me worked up, but I'm getting kinda sick of feeling like I'm doing something wrong just because I'm doing something that I like.

So I'll say it straight up: Fandom owes you jack shitYou find ( Read more... )

genfic, pairings, you're not immune

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kazaera May 27 2008, 07:39:50 UTC
Word.

I mean, I'm coming at this from the opposite end of the spectrum since I apparently delight in finding the most obscure and unpopular pairings/characters to fangirl over and going "meh, not my cup of tea" to all the popular pairings, but that is really no one's fault except my crazy subconscious. I may gripe to friends about the state of things or wonder in chat why no one writes fic for the pairing that has the subtextful cutscene, but telling people they have to write it or telling them not to write what they write? No way. (Also, less of one thing does not imply more of another; if an Axel/Roxas writer quits writing Axel/Roxas, they will not generally start writing your OTP of choice instead. They may, in fact, just quit writing KH fic entirely ( ... )

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kokanshu May 27 2008, 10:41:48 UTC
It's not even so much people complaining that their pairings aren't popular - it's more that I should stop writing my pairing as a pairing and start writing them as just best friends because there's not enough bff fic (and obviously I'm a rabid fangirl who doesn't know what the word 'platonic' means and think all best friends are just waiting for the right moment to jump into bed together.)

I've tried suggesting people do something productive themselves rather than sitting back and bitching about it, but gave up after I was told by one 'I don't want to and why should I have to?' Man, I don't know, why should I have to stop writing Axel/Roxas just cause you say so? >:{

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kazaera May 27 2008, 17:27:14 UTC
God, I hate that. And (given the icon, although it's slightly inaccurate these days) you can probably guess I am all for more genfic, but I still hate that. I mean, people write what they want, and what they have ideas for. (This can be somewhat odd - I ship Zexion/Lexaeus and, to a lesser extent, Zexion/Xigbar like mad but have only managed to produce gen for either of those.) If you keep them from writing what they want and have ideas for, they'll probably just quit writing. I find the "write this /other/ thing instead!" especially stupid applied to something like pairing vs. gen, because whether you see two people as friends or more is very much headcanon. Therefore, a lot of people are /always/ going to write them in one of the above two ways, even if it's not always immediately obvious in the fic; writing them differently would go against how they see the characters involved.

Incidentally, I hate the 'you think all friends want to screw!' argument. Nonono, we think /this/ pair of friends wants to screw, because that's what the ( ... )

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relmneiko May 27 2008, 13:39:41 UTC
Completely unrelated but - Zexion/Tom Riddle? Do tell.

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lapifors May 27 2008, 09:31:56 UTC
Hell, they don't even owe you a reply.

Eurgh, yes. Nothing annoys me more than the fact some people assume it's compulsory for an author to go back and thank every single commenter for replying to their story, no matter how many comments there are. I didn't encounter this until recently in one particular fandom (it wasn't me, it was a friend who found it was apparently Very Very Rude if she didn't respond individually to all 60-odd comments on her fic) and I don't understand how reviewers can feel so entitled.

Personally, it irritates me more to see an author copy paste "Thank you!" into every single comment, because it looks a lot more insincere than just a nice little "Thank you to everyone who replied to ______, I really do appreciate what you guys have to say!" at the top of their next fic.

Rawr. Soap box. Off I get.

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kokanshu May 27 2008, 09:53:30 UTC
Personally, it irritates me more to see an author copy paste "Thank you!" into every single comment, because it looks a lot more insincere

I do this :( I'm grateful and thankful for each and every comment I get, and cause half the people who comment on my stuff don't watch my fic journal I don't think doing a group thank you at the top of the next fic will be seen. I try to think of new things to say to each comment, but really, how much can you say to 'this was great!'? (not that I'm complaining about not getting 'proper' reviews, cause I'm really not.)

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lapifors May 27 2008, 10:01:36 UTC
Well, to each their own, but it just personally irks me. I do try to bear in mind that authors probably aren't insincere, but it just really looks like it from where I'm reading. Also I hate to get really excited about a new e-mail only to find it's a copy-pasted "Thank you" from some fic I read four or five days ago. But then that's definitely me being entitled ;) so I won't complain about that.

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kokanshu May 27 2008, 10:06:45 UTC
Oh it irks me too. I try and phrase things so they don't sound insincere, but usually only end up changing the order and glaring at it a lot before hitting post comment. I just feel bad not saying thank you, personally, so I'd consider a load of similar comments to be the lesser of two evils in the long run.

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relmneiko May 27 2008, 13:27:52 UTC
Word pie. That secret pissed me the hell off - and it's not just one secret, either, I've heard similar complaints of 'why can't Axel and Roxas just be friends' and 'it's so done and it's boring now'. It'll never be boring so long as there are good writers with ideas, and I'll ship them if I damn well please. You want genfic, you write it.

I smell the bitterness of someone whose OTP is not popular.

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kokanshu May 27 2008, 21:58:27 UTC
Yeah, I've been hearing similar stuff for months now, which is why that secret was essentially the straw that broke the camel's back for me, and I had to rant.

I ended up talking to the OP in the end, and they were genuinely looking for genfic of Axel and Roxas. I told them it existed and pointed them in the general direction I'd look (if I was interested.) I still got the impression they hadn't been looking hard enough if their fandom experience was as narrow as it seemed to be (all Axel/Roxas as 'crappy poorly-done porn' and no genfic whatsoever), although they got bitchy when I said that.

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kitsuneasika May 27 2008, 17:17:24 UTC
WORD. This says everything that has been bugging me for a long time--from both sides of the spectrum. I like some popular paiirngs, like Axel/Roxas and Zexion/Demyx, but I also love obscure pairings like Larxene/Olette and Zexion/Belle. I'm not less of a person for liking the first two, nor am I more of a person for liking the second two.

People are annoying.

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malarkiness May 30 2008, 01:51:24 UTC
Bah. I'm sick of people whining because no one writes/draws their OTP/OT3 or gen or what-the-flute-ever, and then proceed to have this whole uppity attitude because their *OTP* is rare and therefore *unique*-er than all the others. Fandom's about having fun, so fans will write/draw what they like, popular or not. And, well, they should.

Anywho, WORDAGE. Have a dancing Dumbledore with your internets. <3

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