Comments | hippiebanana132: Last of the Time Lords (DW S3 spoilers, obv.)

hippiebanana132

Last of the Time Lords (DW S3 spoilers, obv.)

Jul 01, 2007 17:09

You know, this could have been so damn epic, but RTD just didn't pull it together right.

For starters, that drumming wasn't properly explained. For something that has become - at least within my group of friends - such a motif of the show (I keep finding people drumming out that tune), it has no real substance behind it. Ugh. Such a wonderfully ( Read more... )

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ajyablo July 2 2007, 00:34:59 UTC

I was going to read this all...
But that's a damned lot O.o
Scissor sisters for the win?

hippiebanana132 July 2 2007, 01:16:12 UTC

Scissor sisters for the win?

That was pretty much the gist of it, yes.

kb91 July 2 2007, 02:49:54 UTC

And then you have all this wonderful stuff that Martha's been doing, but it turns out that she's actually done very little except for a lot of talking and "I love him" admissions

This is an excellent point. When Rose saved the Earth, she did it by being proactive -- both times. She broke into the TARDIS and she risked her life to right the lever. Martha does undertake a giagantic task, and I really feel for her having to through this kind of year (alone, while terrified about what is happening to the Doctor and her family), especially after already having a pretty sucky tenure with the Doctor. But when I found out that all she was doing was telling people how much she loved the Doctor -- and following the Doctor's orders, not even coming up with a grand plan on her own -- well, gag me. Granted, I didn't quite buy her tracking down pieces of the weapon, so in a way, this is better but ... it would have been so much better if she'd just stopped at talking about the Doctor, not her feelings for him.

the Doctor, sitting still for ( ... )

hippiebanana132 July 2 2007, 03:03:49 UTC

But when I found out that all she was doing was telling people how much she loved the Doctor -- and following the Doctor's orders, not even coming up with a grand plan on her own -- well, gag me. - LOL exactly. It wasn't exactly an amazing act for her to go out on, was it? It appears all brilliant on the surface, but even her hardships were untaken off-screen, so I can't really pity her them. Besides, she didn't really have a choice, kind of like how Rose had to bring that lever up or else the world would be stuffed. In S1, though, Rose didn't have to go back and save the Doctor at all. And that, for me, makes all the difference.

You have a great point about the aged Doctor there, actually, and I have to agree with you (although I don't think I'm ever going to like watching the Doctor be so pointless. It might as well have been Master Who this week). I do really like that idea about him trying little things all the time to lull the Master into thinking everything was going his way =)

Out of curiosity, did you hate Jackie and Pete ( ... )

kb91 July 2 2007, 02:51:32 UTC

Continuing from above ...

And, of course, there are all those awful moments that are so ridiculous that they pull you right out of the story and force you to goggle at the screen.

For me, it wasn't the elf-Doctor (though that really pushed me up to the edge), it was the Tinkerbell ending. For the first time ever in a DW, I was groaning out loud and saying, "You have GOT to be kidding me!" In general, I definitely subscribe to the whole "buy the premise, buy the joke" point of a sci-fi show, and I can suspend a lot of disbelief if I'm engaged with the characters. But I agree with you that this episode had moments that took even sci-fi/fantasy way over the top.

I'm not even going to go into Jack being the Face of Boe. I daresay you all feel the same about it, and I swear RTD was drunk when he put that in. It doesn't merit discussion, really, this; it doesn't even fit with canon. And I'm not happy or impressed that Ten and Martha were laughing when they'd watched the Face die only a few episodes before. Not impressed at all.I'm not ( ... )

hippiebanana132 July 2 2007, 03:10:27 UTC

For the first time ever in a DW, I was groaning out loud and saying, "You have GOT to be kidding me!" - I believe I shouted, "What IS this rubbish?!" several times.

I'm not sure yet how I feel about Jack being the Face of Boe (assuming he is; it's implied but even the Doctor can hardly believe it) - *grins* My friend Em and I have decided to believe that he was nicknamed the Face of Boe ironically, after the already existing actual, uh, face. Because it just doesn't FIT any other way.

It definitely won't be on my rewatch list, but then again, I can't think of a single episode of S3 that would be. - It's so sad, but I'm exactly the same. The only ones I've rewatched are Blink and Utopia, because I adore Carey Mulligan and John Simm. But last year? Blimey, I was sneaking downstairs at 3am and watching on mute, I was that keen to see the episodes again. Heavens, I drive the rest of my household bonkers watching them on repeat even now.

Roll on, S4! - Absolutely =D I was dreading S3, but I'm really excited about next year, especially ( ... )

starlightmoonla July 2 2007, 05:28:46 UTC

*gets out her reading glasses* ^_^

For starters, that drumming wasn't properly explained.

I was honestly confused about the drumming throughout the last two episodes. I think they started when The Master looked into the Vortex as a child and just kept going? And then they were used as a way of charming the entire world, essentially, into voting Harold Saxon. Like you, I agree that there could have been much more to this. The Doctor could have talked about it and thought up some theories to help the Master but all the Doctor really did, in my opinion, was say that he could help The Master with the drumming problem.

but it turns out that she's actually done very little except for a lot of talking and "I love him" admissionsThat scene where she's talking to the people about her travels and about the Doctor... I was smiling for almost the whole thing. Until she said that she loves him. -__-" I swear right before she said it I was "please don't say it" but NO the writers had to stick that last bit in there. I really couldn't ( ... )

hippiebanana132 July 2 2007, 11:40:23 UTC

I swear right before she said it I was "please don't say it" but NO the writers had to stick that last bit in there. - Ha, I was doing exactly the same, not to mention throwing my hands over my eyes when they replayed all the kissing and stuff. I had to say, it made me feel a little bad for Martha that the greatest affection she can recall from him was a "genetic transfer".

I was cracking up just like The Doctor and Martha to be honest. - I think there's something wrong with me; I seem to be the only person who didn't laugh. *grins*

Though I have to wonder how will go from human to immortal to The Face of Boe, a completely new species. - Not to mention lose all his limbs, grow tentacles, expand to become a face twice the size of his original body and acquire a tank. But hey. I get the feeling this is one of those things we're just not meant to take seriously or analyse. *zips mouth shut*

The Doctor should really got something back from the universe after all his been through. - Absolutely. He's had enough taken from him. Couldn't ( ... )

maniacal_math July 7 2007, 03:09:28 UTC

Just.. a small note here... about Lucy.

I got the feeling that she killed him because he wanted it. I also would have been absolutely appalled at the idea of the Master (being amazing in that John Simm-y, hilariously/sadistically evil way) being catered around the TARDIS like a pet. I'd say she knew from the moment he said "So you're just going to... keep me?" I think Lucy honestly loved him, and despite me absolutely loving her at the end of Sound of Drums (dancing while the world came to an end), I felt it was kind of a fitting ending. The Master totally won at the end. And it was a grand exit ( ... )