She also seemed entirely unapologetic about snogging the Doctor on the night before she was getting married, even to Rory’s face, which again.... okay. Yeah, I found this really weird too... but then it occurred to me that she might not even know that he knows, since she's not in the room when the Doctor tells him and it's the Doctor that Rory brings this up with, he never really confronts Amy directly. Which, admittedly, doesn't really scream OPEN HEALTHY COMMUNICATION, but I think it was meant to be more that they just never talk about it than that she was like "yeah I tried to have a one-night stand WHAT OF IT
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I AM GLAD IT WAS NOT JUST ME. I don't know, I've been finding her really inconsistent. I liked her for the first two episodes and then she didn't do anything for 2.75 episodes, and then since the kiss scene, she's just been really mean to Rory. OKAY THEN, MOFFAT. FINE.
Yeah, I found this really weird too... but then it occurred to me that she might not even know that he knows, since she's not in the room when the Doctor tells him and it's the Doctor that Rory brings this up with, he never really confronts Amy directly.
Yeah, I guess... but idk, it still seems weird that Amy is so unbothered by the fact that she was hoping for a one-night stand before her wedding. Okay. And that she didn't even seem to *like* Rory that much until they almost died. This seems like a healthy relationship.
I felt like the weirdness between the three of them wasn't really resolved, but I wasn't sure if the show wanted me to think it was resolved or not. I kind of got the impression "well! got my spaceship and my boys!" was meant to be like "ALL WAS
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IDK. I'm hoping this will make more sense by the end of the series, but who knows if any of that will come to pass. I think that you're right about Amy being kind of cold, and I don't know if we're supposed to think that or not -- i mean at times it seems like they're showing her as deliberately cold or aloof, like in VOTD when she sees the girl crying but doesn't do anything, or in Beast Below when she's like "one little girl crying... so?" But those could also just be moments of Moffat putting plot before characters, so it's hard to say.
Her and Rory, I dunno. It was cute when they seemed to be having fun together, but she also sort of flip-flopped a lot in the episode and only seemed to pay attention to him when the Doctor wasn't around. Which is a lot like Mickey and Rose, I guess, except that Mickey and Rose were pretty obviously not going to be end game, whereas Amy and Rory... feel like they probably will be.
lol that was such a bizarre line of dialogue, but okay. I didn't mind the line itself, but it did sound like Amy
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It’s weird because I’m still seeing a lot of parallels between Amy and Rose... I think I’m finally beginning to get why some fans found Ten and Rose’s attitude so unbearable. As someone who was never a huge fan of Rose, it's true, I am not too keen to see Moffatt write his own version. Alternate universes are always fun and illuminating, though, so hopes for the next episode!
I didn't like the plot of this episode much at all (maybe because the lollll fish people thing just did not work for me? Although I watched it at four in the morning, so I might need to rewatch it at some point when I'm more awake!), but the character stuff that we got delighted me. I want moreee of that, DW!
Your thoughts on Amy kind of correspond to what I've been thinking? I like her rather a lot, for what we know of her (possibly because it feels like she needs the Doctor, and I think that's a big part of the companion thing for me? See: why I clicked with Rose and Donna more readily than Martha. I liked Martha, but she never really worked for me like the other two, and I think that's partly due to my belief her life would have been perfectly fine and brilliant without him), and I can understand to some extent why she might be so distant, but it definitely feels ... at this point in every other season, I felt like I knew the characters almost inside-out. RTD fleshed out his companions really, really well - which, yeah, duh,
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I actually kind of loved the fish plot... idk. I also loved alien fat babies. And Judoon on the moon. IT'S DOCTOR WHO, I ACCEPT THE CRACK.
You know what's weird, though? I actually feel like I am sort of missing something from Amy/Doctor. Okay, with Rose she needed someone to show her that she could be more than a shopgirl, and the Doctor needed someone to show him that life was worth living. With Martha, the Doctor needed someone to look after him since he was falling apart at the seams, and Martha.... okay, it was a bit more subtle, but I think Martha learned from him how to be a little bit selfish and make decisions for herself. Donna and the Doctor had a similar connection to the Doctor and Rose, but from a BFF angle rather than the TRUE LOVE angle. But Amy and the Doctor...? I think he liked bb Amelia a lot, and she... wanted... idk, to run away from her wedding.
RTD fleshed out his companions really, really well - which, yeah, duh, of course he did, he's always been more character-driven - and then Amy feels ... like an
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I think he liked bb Amelia a lot, and she... wanted... idk, to run away from her wedding. I think that's it right there... It all ties back to BB Amelia. I'm starting to think that his encounter with her at that young age kind of STUNTED her in a way. It's like, now that he's back, she's reverted to being a 7 year old and she's somehow confused and lost and vulnerable. I don't think even she knows why she wants to run away. I don't think she understands why she feels such an attachment to the Doctor. Maybe it has something to do with feeling safe? Remember in the Eleventh Hour how he makes the comment about the crack in her wall being really scary since she's not afraid of anything else
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I feel like I'm not connecting with her emotionally. She's funny, but that's not enough. Still though, love the episode! I loved Eleven being all douchey at the beginning. SERIOUSLY FRANCES (not the name spelling!!!) I'M GETTING ALL FANGIRLY OVER ASHES TO ASHES AND I FEAR I'M ABANDONING DW!!!! (of course Ashes is ending so it's all coming to a head and it's so pretty and making me dream things...)
Yeah... that's sort of how I feel, too. It's weird, I wanted to like Amy a lot, and I am very fond of Karen Gillan. DD:
LOL GO FOR IT, GIRL. Whatever you're feeling at the moment - you can't force a fandom! Besides we all know that right now my ~true love~ is the Habs... at least until tomorrow night.
I like Karen Gillan, too! I'm hopeful by episode 9 I'll be okay. It took me 3 episodes to accept Matt Smith, and I loved him in an interview with Blue Peter, so three weeks? *prods Moffat* I read this post on why someone's not relating very well to Amy, and she included a quote of Moffat's I've never seen before and that man can horrify me.
Ugh, it's just a stupid time to go and really fall for a fandom. 2 episodes left, seriously. *sighs*
I read this post on why someone's not relating very well to Amy, and she included a quote of Moffat's I've never seen before and that man can horrify me.
I'll probably regret this - but what did he say? D:
Okay I'm gonna go into weirdo territory and say I think you're trying to take Amy's feelings for Rory too literally and trying to make something tangible out of something which may not be possible at this point in the story.
The way I see it, Amy's trying to make Rory jealous by prancing about with the Doctor and whatnot because I think she feels like she's 'settling'. Rory was a childhood friend and close to her but she sees him more as a slightly pathetic yet dependable fallback guy. She made the call to marry him probably because she didn't think she'd have anything better later in life (like waiting around for the Doctor who had oh-so-good timing). But when the Doctor actually did come to whisk her away, she realized that "Holy shit, there's all this stuff I can see/do/Eleven is awesome" and Rory seemed so inconsequential, even on the eve of their wedding
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Okay I'm gonna go into weirdo territory and say I think you're trying to take Amy's feelings for Rory too literally and trying to make something tangible out of something which may not be possible at this point in the story.
EXCUSE U.
Rory was a childhood friend and close to her but she sees him more as a slightly pathetic yet dependable fallback guy. She made the call to marry him probably because she didn't think she'd have anything better later in life (like waiting around for the Doctor who had oh-so-good timing).
I... suppose? I dunno, I still feel like we're missing some of that explanation. I mean, that's what Mickey/Rose was, right? Except that we actually saw whereas the only thing we know about Rory is that he's her fiancee. We don't even know if they were childhood friends.
But now that the Doctor is trying to get them to work out (awww and lulz honestly), Amy is using the opportunity to torment Rory like "neener neener see how much cooler he is IRL? Why can't YOU do that?" Probably to see if she can get a response out
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I... suppose? I dunno, I still feel like we're missing some of that explanation. I mean, that's what Mickey/Rose was, right?
See at the moment I find there's a huge difference between Amy/Rory and Rose/Mickey. With Rose and Mickey I actually felt that Rose loved Mickey a lot before she met the Doctor, and it was while she was with the Doctor that she grew distant and cold to Mickey (from my standpoint, which I admittedly had issues with). With Amy and Rory, I don't feel like they have that same kind of connection. I feel like they are legit friends but Amy kind of resents him because at the moment she probably sees him as a cage. I know this can and will come across as really cold but tbh I get where she's coming from and I can connect with that (if this indeed is the reasoning behind her actions thus far).
lol I think this comment makes me come across as a really cold-hearted bitch, WOO.
I got the impression from Rose that she was fond of Mickey, but that she settled for him because he was "safe." But the relationships are definitely being handled differently in text - I think we were supposed to be, as the audience, rooting for Doctor/Rose with Mickey as the annoying third party coming between them whereas I get the impression from Vampires in Venice that we're supposed to be rooting for Rory and Amy to reconcile. Plus Eleven's attempts to play couple's therapy are hilarious.
I feel like they are legit friends but Amy kind of resents him because at the moment she probably sees him as a cage.WELL THAT IS 'COS RELATIONSHIPS ARE SCARY AND NOBODY SHOULD BE GETTING MARRIED AT 22
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She also seemed entirely unapologetic about snogging the Doctor on the night before she was getting married, even to Rory’s face, which again.... okay. Yeah, I found this really weird too... but then it occurred to me that she might not even know that he knows, since she's not in the room when the Doctor tells him and it's the Doctor that Rory brings this up with, he never really confronts Amy directly. Which, admittedly, doesn't really scream OPEN HEALTHY COMMUNICATION, but I think it was meant to be more that they just never talk about it than that she was like "yeah I tried to have a one-night stand WHAT OF IT ( ... )
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Yeah, I found this really weird too... but then it occurred to me that she might not even know that he knows, since she's not in the room when the Doctor tells him and it's the Doctor that Rory brings this up with, he never really confronts Amy directly.
Yeah, I guess... but idk, it still seems weird that Amy is so unbothered by the fact that she was hoping for a one-night stand before her wedding. Okay. And that she didn't even seem to *like* Rory that much until they almost died. This seems like a healthy relationship.
I felt like the weirdness between the three of them wasn't really resolved, but I wasn't sure if the show wanted me to think it was resolved or not. I kind of got the impression "well! got my spaceship and my boys!" was meant to be like "ALL WAS ( ... )
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Her and Rory, I dunno. It was cute when they seemed to be having fun together, but she also sort of flip-flopped a lot in the episode and only seemed to pay attention to him when the Doctor wasn't around. Which is a lot like Mickey and Rose, I guess, except that Mickey and Rose were pretty obviously not going to be end game, whereas Amy and Rory... feel like they probably will be.
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As someone who was never a huge fan of Rose, it's true, I am not too keen to see Moffatt write his own version. Alternate universes are always fun and illuminating, though, so hopes for the next episode!
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Your thoughts on Amy kind of correspond to what I've been thinking? I like her rather a lot, for what we know of her (possibly because it feels like she needs the Doctor, and I think that's a big part of the companion thing for me? See: why I clicked with Rose and Donna more readily than Martha. I liked Martha, but she never really worked for me like the other two, and I think that's partly due to my belief her life would have been perfectly fine and brilliant without him), and I can understand to some extent why she might be so distant, but it definitely feels ... at this point in every other season, I felt like I knew the characters almost inside-out. RTD fleshed out his companions really, really well - which, yeah, duh, ( ... )
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You know what's weird, though? I actually feel like I am sort of missing something from Amy/Doctor. Okay, with Rose she needed someone to show her that she could be more than a shopgirl, and the Doctor needed someone to show him that life was worth living. With Martha, the Doctor needed someone to look after him since he was falling apart at the seams, and Martha.... okay, it was a bit more subtle, but I think Martha learned from him how to be a little bit selfish and make decisions for herself. Donna and the Doctor had a similar connection to the Doctor and Rose, but from a BFF angle rather than the TRUE LOVE angle. But Amy and the Doctor...? I think he liked bb Amelia a lot, and she... wanted... idk, to run away from her wedding.
RTD fleshed out his companions really, really well - which, yeah, duh, of course he did, he's always been more character-driven - and then Amy feels ... like an ( ... )
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LOL GO FOR IT, GIRL. Whatever you're feeling at the moment - you can't force a fandom! Besides we all know that right now my ~true love~ is the Habs... at least until tomorrow night.
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I read this post on why someone's not relating very well to Amy, and she included a quote of Moffat's I've never seen before and that man can horrify me.
Ugh, it's just a stupid time to go and really fall for a fandom. 2 episodes left, seriously. *sighs*
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I'll probably regret this - but what did he say? D:
*PET PET PET*
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The way I see it, Amy's trying to make Rory jealous by prancing about with the Doctor and whatnot because I think she feels like she's 'settling'. Rory was a childhood friend and close to her but she sees him more as a slightly pathetic yet dependable fallback guy. She made the call to marry him probably because she didn't think she'd have anything better later in life (like waiting around for the Doctor who had oh-so-good timing). But when the Doctor actually did come to whisk her away, she realized that "Holy shit, there's all this stuff I can see/do/Eleven is awesome" and Rory seemed so inconsequential, even on the eve of their wedding ( ... )
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EXCUSE U.
Rory was a childhood friend and close to her but she sees him more as a slightly pathetic yet dependable fallback guy. She made the call to marry him probably because she didn't think she'd have anything better later in life (like waiting around for the Doctor who had oh-so-good timing).
I... suppose? I dunno, I still feel like we're missing some of that explanation. I mean, that's what Mickey/Rose was, right? Except that we actually saw whereas the only thing we know about Rory is that he's her fiancee. We don't even know if they were childhood friends.
But now that the Doctor is trying to get them to work out (awww and lulz honestly), Amy is using the opportunity to torment Rory like "neener neener see how much cooler he is IRL? Why can't YOU do that?" Probably to see if she can get a response out ( ... )
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See at the moment I find there's a huge difference between Amy/Rory and Rose/Mickey. With Rose and Mickey I actually felt that Rose loved Mickey a lot before she met the Doctor, and it was while she was with the Doctor that she grew distant and cold to Mickey (from my standpoint, which I admittedly had issues with). With Amy and Rory, I don't feel like they have that same kind of connection. I feel like they are legit friends but Amy kind of resents him because at the moment she probably sees him as a cage. I know this can and will come across as really cold but tbh I get where she's coming from and I can connect with that (if this indeed is the reasoning behind her actions thus far).
lol I think this comment makes me come across as a really cold-hearted bitch, WOO.
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I feel like they are legit friends but Amy kind of resents him because at the moment she probably sees him as a cage.WELL THAT IS 'COS RELATIONSHIPS ARE SCARY AND NOBODY SHOULD BE GETTING MARRIED AT 22 ( ... )
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