Comments | dove95: Open up your eyes

dove95

Open up your eyes

Jul 03, 2005 16:48

You know, these entries are going to go unnoticed since no one's around (hardly) on a holiday weekend. *le sigh*

I don't care. There are just a couple political issues I need to get out there.

The ONE Campaign

Are we all really being duped/lied to, or does it really matter?

ascii_70_85 brings up a good point in this entry in that the Live 8/ONE campaign ( Read more... )

life - politics, music - indies

Comments 13

rhiannonhero July 3 2005, 21:57:21 UTC

I agree with much of what you say. I do think, however, the Supreme Court ruling was a crappy ruling in that in does nothing for the artist in actuality. It's way too gray and vague and useless. It doesn't actually stop P2P sharing. I posted an article about it in my LJ last week that hits on just a few of the problems with the ruling itself. Casey joined in the discussion, btw.

Not that I'm debating this issue, it just stuck out to me, but:

If a song doesn’t pull me in within the first minute or so, I can tell it’s not going to work.That's a statement that is completely untrue for me, personally. Some of my favorite songs (albums) took me three or more listens to decide if I liked them, much less loved them. Which is why those sites where you can stream the music generally doesn't work for me, unless I've got time to sit there and listen to the same song ten times, or the sites that only provide clips of the music. I will generally only buy anymore if I can sample full songs (not full albums, but full songs)for long lengths ( ... )

dove95 July 10 2005, 20:15:50 UTC

I guess for someone like me who doesn't have the luxury of ever really having sound on a computer or having the time to digest songs 20 times or more, I have to go by my gut reaction to what I initially hear, which is why (for me) I more heavily rely on recommendations of people who know what I like (which is why I checked out Casey live--because both you and violetsuede talked highly enough of him). Which brings up another method of how I find new artists to like, and that's through live performances. To me, that's the ultimate test. If they don't draw me in there or if they just suck live, then I don't think I'm going to like anything they record, or I just won't support a recorded album since those can be doctored so much.

$ & charity. ascii_70_85 July 4 2005, 03:27:08 UTC

ascii_70_85 brings up a good point...
{shakes-head} Don't you know ... crack is bad for you {facetiously?}.
Also, I have it on good authority mr.askee's just an evil greedy bastard -- you must be wrong.

“The problem is, we have no control over that money, the politicians do. THEY can give up the 1%, we can't.
Therefore, it's "their" money.”
This argument is scary! The Gov't is or is supposed to be 'We the People ...' -- we own it. It's our money. It's supposed to be used for things which benefit all the citizens. One can argue about what that is all day (I have an EXTREMELY narrow definition of what that is), but I don't think helping Africa exactly falls in that realm.
Also, I've played this game before.

**If this is to end global poverty, how come the campaign isn't a global effort? How come it's just focused on getting Bush/our government into action?
We have more money than most everyone else, therefore perhaps the implication is we are supposed to harbor much of the burden for such things ... because.

**How come our country ( ... )

This is bad reflection of a good argument, which is poorly written. ascii_70_85 July 4 2005, 03:31:18 UTC

The U.S. Supreme Court rules against file-sharing service Grokster in a closely watched piracy case.
They are suing the maker of Grockter, not the people that actual steal things. They say something to the effect of 90% of downloads on G-ster are illegal. As silly as it may sound that means 10% are legal. So that 10% will be penalized too?

I'm not perfect about stealing ... I have stolen. This is wrong. Though for whatever it's worth I never stole like full albums of stuff. I'd rather have the real thing. Now I listen to poll selections, but I have told myself I will delete them afterward, and have been faithfully doing so.
I used to get really annoyed with like say a greatest hits collection that had 2 new songs on it... you mean I've bought every CD up to this point and I have to buy another to get all the songs ... Though now with iTunes (not that I've ever used it), I know there is a viable way to purchase such things (sometimes). Thus stealing is again wrong ( ... )

dove95 July 10 2005, 20:29:58 UTC

You said when someone sent you a mix CD that It would make you actually go out and buy the albums. The mix CD stole the songs, but it made you go out and buy them. The artist benefited by the theft.

No, not necessarily. I know a lot of people who own the CDs that they make their mixed CDs from, which is what I do if I make any. So the song isn't really being stolen if it's already bought and just being shared with one person.

However, I do know a lot of people who don't make mixed CDs the way I do, so I guess there really is no way of telling.

I just know that I just can't stand hearing so many people think it's okay to download a whole album before they think it's worth buying.

Selective reasoning? ascii_70_85 July 10 2005, 21:07:29 UTC

You said when someone sent you a mix CD that It would make you actually go out and buy the albums. The mix CD stole the songs, but it made you go out and buy them. The artist benefited by the theft.
You said when someone sent you a mix CD that It would make you actually go out and buy the albums. The mix CD stole the songs, but it made you go out and buy them. The artist benefited by the theft.
I think you are using selective reasoning here.

If someone makes you a mixed CD. I believe they are violating copyright agreements. The only way they are not is if they, buy the music they burn for you off of iTunes (or something like that), and do not use it for themselves after they burn it for you, or if it's 'open source' like some live Grateful Dead recordings.

You may make backup copies of CD-ROMS you buy (I don't know if such 'rights' extend to audio recordings), so that if your copies become damaged you can use the back-up or vice-versa. But buying the CD does not give you any legal right to copy it for use by others. It's amounts to ( ... )

Re: Selective reasoning? dove95 July 10 2005, 21:27:55 UTC

Yeah, okay, i hear you about stealing and infringing on copyrights. That's the thing that gets me about mixed CDs and mixed tapes (back in the day)? I mean, I still don't get the difference between taping from the radio any different than taping the songs from a CD and sending that out to a friend, and then in turn it gets them to buy the whole album? This law doesn't really take that into consideration, does it?

I guess, by and large, not many people are buying CDs according to the "big people."

Thread 8

ellyodd July 4 2005, 07:08:13 UTC

The 1% wont mean a fucking thing, it's peanuts. It's not about giving money, it's about giving up getting 1% of the loan back. So your taxes wont be affected. And it's not like we, the rich countries, will ever see the rest of the money again if we don't help them to... survive.

The one-campaign is not alone about getting Bush to help, but I guess that because you see American tv they only talk about that part.

http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/resistg8/whatistheg8.pdf

rg3design July 4 2005, 15:05:38 UTC

It's really about survival and doing the right thing. No person on this earth should be allowed to starve to death when there is plenty of food to go around. We eat like absolute pigs in the United States when thousands eat nothing every day and die because of it.

Even when food does get to Africa it does not mean that everything will be perfect. There are plenty of health concerns to consider. As Bob Geldof states in the original Live Aid tour program:

In that place where humans have abandoned, humanity thrives. A handful of grain each. There is no water to boil and make a sort of porridge... or there is water but no fuel with which to boil it,... or there is no fuel or water, just the grain.

You eat it. It is like consuming razor blades. It tears the walls of the stomach away, then passes through you, taking your innards with it, unconsumed and useless. This is not just a bad thing that can easily be fixed. It will take many years and billions but it has to start now. We must work together. If we, as the common citizen, do not ( ... )