Farkline: (Some Guy) [SPIFFY] Liberal thinktank visits Iraq and says that despite Democratic conventional wisdom, morale is high and the US has a good chance of winning. The negative media coverage is, of course, all Bush's fault though
Once I get over the initial shock that the article was A) written by members of a
liberal thinktank and 2) this
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Seems I've heard that very criticism about my faith in creationism...
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Nope. Not buying. Not even a little.
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And even if it's working, if it's going as slowly as it is, then the cost to those of us the Gov't is SUPPOSED to be working for is goign to be even larger. That's the reason I don't support the war.
We could be making the most perfect utopia over there, and I'd still be against it, unless they were planning on declaring it part of the US and having us inhabit it as a colony, which wouldn't work in this day and age, especially over in the Middle East.
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I am concerned that this sort of happy happy joy joy article (didn't read it, just based off your comments) will lead to forgetfulness of how truly this administration screwed the pooch. A somewhat acceptable result cannot be used as retroactive justification for the lying and incompetence that has come before.
the authors seem to define "victory" as something other than "sustainable stability". I think that has been the victory we have been seeking all along.
I'm sorry, I thought the original reason we went into Iraq was because they had Weapons of Mass Destruction which they were going to use against us. That was the justification for the invasion. That was the reason Congress authorized the effort. That was why we pulled our troops out of Afghanistan & the hunt for bin Laden to take out Hussein. Every other reason since, no matter the potentially ( ... )
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Second, it's not just salvageable. There are real results. Places are becoming safer. People are turning against al-Qaeda and turning to the US and Iraqi forces. These are Very Good Things.
I am concerned that this sort of happy happy joy joy article (didn't read it, just based off your comments) will lead to forgetfulness of how truly this administration screwed the pooch. A somewhat acceptable result cannot be used as retroactive justification for the lying and incompetence that has come before.
No offense, but that seems a bit vindictive and petty. I mean, sure it can be fun to play the blame game, but I'd rather be concerned with the results. When people are saying that good things are happening in Iraq, people are safer, etc. and the response is "Yes, but don't forget, Bush screwed up!" I have to cry foul.
I'm sorry, I thought the original reason we went into Iraq was because they had Weapons of Mass Destruction which they were going to use against us. No, no, no, no, no, no, NO. ( ... )
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Second, I really don't care whether you forgive him or not. Pragmatically, however, if things are going well in Iraq, the response of "Don't forget: Bush Lied, Kids Died!" is neither helpful nor particularly relevant. I'm not criticizing your choice not to forgive, I'm criticizing the fact that you feel it necessary to remind us of how badly Bush screwed up on the tail of good news in Iraq.
Since you used a baking analogy, I'll use an analogy of my own. Let's say you and I go out for a drive. You warn me that the car need maintenance but I ignore you. We are on the highway and the car dies. After a long painstaking time of fixing the car, in which I am continually criticized for screwing up, I finally gain some progress with the car. You respond, "Yes, but don't forget that you caused this mess in the first place." I would find that petty and distracting from the pragmatic point.
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Why don’t we ever hear about this on our news?
We do. As evidenced by the fact that this entire post is about how you heard about it on our news.
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