Thanks. It sounds like I only know how to criticize, but there are lots of things I enjoy about the Show ... expounding on them wasn't the point of this post, though. I always feel a little sheepish after writing show reactions that have anything less than stellar things to say and have to fight the urge to DELETE them, so I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed some of the same things I did. :)
i was rendered inarticulate - in a bad way - by 4x11
Talk about inarticulate, I think I was the one who wrote only "DITTO" to your episode reaction post. XD
Humphries constant fade-to-wallpaper!!!!!!
LOL! I love that description! I doubt she's really like this or that anyone ignores anyone like that, but I did read an interview with Gamble who said she kept trying to inject high-brow themes and intellectual blah blah blah blah and Kripke would have to tell her to stop because SPN wasn't that kind of show. Heh! So funny.
I only poke fun because Show and its writers crack me up, not to be mean spirited.
Hmmm... For me, this ep was good. Hands down the creepiest ep in the history of Supernatural, but... good. I think the scene at the end worked much better here than it did in H&H (4x10), for some reason. Maybe it's the hiatus, maybe because I've gotten used to the Show being like this, who knows? But for me, Dean's characterization here, in this, rang truer than at the end of last ep.
Yes, this was a MotW-ep, sprinkled with hints at mytharc. Just like Playthings (2x11). Maybe they could've made it better; not for me to know. I was way too busy hiding behind my hands to cry foul. Maybe once I watch it during daytime/with someone... Doesn't the Tanner-kid from Croatoan (2x09) count as human, btw? Or the Tanner dad and mom, Beverly? Far as the boys were concerned, all three of those were human when they (Dean) decided to pull the trigger...Your version of what happened down at the Writers' Room sounds delightful. *GLEE* It's so easy to think that yes, this is how the creative process went. \o
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Hello, sweets, I'm glad you liked this episode. It was creepy and one of the most disturbing yet. The doll head in the closet and the look on the girl's face as she walked from the closet in the teaser gave me goosebumps.
I think the scene at the end worked much better here than it did in H&H (4x10)
I'm still not sure what to say about 4x10, so I think it's better if I don't say anything at all. For me, it's not a matter of which end scene fit better or which one I preferred, but a matter of being tired of watching Dean torture himself and slowly barfing up his confessions in what I think is a disproportionate amount of Show time considering all of the other stories lines that are clamoring for attention. I'm not suggesting that we don't spend time on Dean or that his reveals shouldn't be heart wrenching or take time for him to divulge/process, but the revelation could've been all taken care of in one swoop instead of two (H&H and FR) and then we'd have an extra episode to explore the implications of his reveals OR something
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Dean's talk about his time in Hell has only taken up about 5 minutes of show time, all together.
Thanks for adding up those minutes. I was speaking in Show Time, meaning fictional time (which stretched into at least a month, longer if you consider the focus on Dean's time in Hell started at at the end of "Wishful Thinking"), not actual viewing time, but it's good to know these facts. :)
Dean hasn't spent alot of time whining about it
No Dean definitely doesn't whine. In fact, he does the exact opposite! That man has one stiff upper lip.
I don't think they have spent much time on Dean's time in Hell in terms of it taking up screen time
There have been a lot of MotW episodes, so case files have technically take up most of the screen time. But the emphasis those MotW episodes is what I'm speaking of, their relevance to the characters. They've centered more on clarifying Dean's head space than anyone else's so far this season. If you're interested in more on this I posted a response (with a incredibly dorky table) about this
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I don't think so. I thought that path was nicely laid as well, since when I saw that painting I assumed it was the Girl and the son she wanted to kidnap.
that brother looked and sounded years older than the sister), it would’ve explained why the “ghost” appeared to move so quickly from inside to outside the house
Very good point! I also thought they seemed different in age but I had assumed that there was more than one pregnancy, although I guess there was no reason to think so.
Why was it chopped up and tacked onto the end of two episodes that were loosely made relevant when it had the potential to be so much more?I have an unpleasant answer for that which also harkens back to other brother bonding moments in those last few minutes of show, such as in Fresh Blood and Wishful Thinking. They don't care if viewers tune out by that time and don't watch it, because it's too late to be measured as a ratings drop-off, and at the same time the fans who most want to see those scenes will always watch
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I also thought they seemed different in age but I had assumed that there was more than one pregnancy, although I guess there was no reason to think so.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one giving the TV a BHUZ face. According to the sides, the kids were originally fraternal albino twins. The albino part obviously didn't translate to the shoot so I don't know if we should assume the twin part did either or not. I suppose it's not important either way for the MotW story and there's no way to prove or disprove either scenario so I guess we just chalk it up to a detail only fandom would obsess over.
However, I did add a paragraph to this entry about why they cast an older male who was faceless and kept hidden for majority of the episode. And why he was shot by Dean and not the MotW with a face, the girl.
they make for good cliffhangers whereas an unsolved case will not.Yes, true. But it would be refreshing to have the brotherly moment be of a different nature once in a while. Dean making some statement about Hell while Sam looks on
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And your writer's room conversation rocks!
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Thanks. It sounds like I only know how to criticize, but there are lots of things I enjoy about the Show ... expounding on them wasn't the point of this post, though. I always feel a little sheepish after writing show reactions that have anything less than stellar things to say and have to fight the urge to DELETE them, so I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed some of the same things I did. :)
your writer's room conversation rocks!
Crack + meta = crack!meta? ;)
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So many good points. i was rendered inarticulate - in a bad way - by 4x11. You have stated so succinctly the many ways it was below par!
hahahahahahahahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! *luvs your cracktasticness*
Sera Gamble's fixations! Edlund's fixations! Kripke's fixations! carver's feasr! Humphries constant fade-to-wallpaper!!!!!!
You win!
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Talk about inarticulate, I think I was the one who wrote only "DITTO" to your episode reaction post. XD
Humphries constant fade-to-wallpaper!!!!!!
LOL! I love that description! I doubt she's really like this or that anyone ignores anyone like that, but I did read an interview with Gamble who said she kept trying to inject high-brow themes and intellectual blah blah blah blah and Kripke would have to tell her to stop because SPN wasn't that kind of show. Heh! So funny.
I only poke fun because Show and its writers crack me up, not to be mean spirited.
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ps. Minus the very-amazing-cracktastic-tude. That might not translate so well *snort*
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Wouldn't that take all? Heh. Somehow I imagine he's got better things to do than read episode reviews ... like maybe run a TV show. ;)
That might not translate so well *snort*
*snort* And then I'd have to start flocking all my entries.
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For me, this ep was good. Hands down the creepiest ep in the history of Supernatural, but... good. I think the scene at the end worked much better here than it did in H&H (4x10), for some reason.
Maybe it's the hiatus, maybe because I've gotten used to the Show being like this, who knows? But for me, Dean's characterization here, in this, rang truer than at the end of last ep.
Yes, this was a MotW-ep, sprinkled with hints at mytharc. Just like Playthings (2x11). Maybe they could've made it better; not for me to know. I was way too busy hiding behind my hands to cry foul. Maybe once I watch it during daytime/with someone...
Doesn't the Tanner-kid from Croatoan (2x09) count as human, btw? Or the Tanner dad and mom, Beverly? Far as the boys were concerned, all three of those were human when they (Dean) decided to pull the trigger...Your version of what happened down at the Writers' Room sounds delightful. *GLEE* It's so easy to think that yes, this is how the creative process went. \o ( ... )
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I think the scene at the end worked much better here than it did in H&H (4x10)
I'm still not sure what to say about 4x10, so I think it's better if I don't say anything at all. For me, it's not a matter of which end scene fit better or which one I preferred, but a matter of being tired of watching Dean torture himself and slowly barfing up his confessions in what I think is a disproportionate amount of Show time considering all of the other stories lines that are clamoring for attention. I'm not suggesting that we don't spend time on Dean or that his reveals shouldn't be heart wrenching or take time for him to divulge/process, but the revelation could've been all taken care of in one swoop instead of two (H&H and FR) and then we'd have an extra episode to explore the implications of his reveals OR something ( ... )
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Thanks for adding up those minutes. I was speaking in Show Time, meaning fictional time (which stretched into at least a month, longer if you consider the focus on Dean's time in Hell started at at the end of "Wishful Thinking"), not actual viewing time, but it's good to know these facts. :)
Dean hasn't spent alot of time whining about it
No Dean definitely doesn't whine. In fact, he does the exact opposite! That man has one stiff upper lip.
I don't think they have spent much time on Dean's time in Hell in terms of it taking up screen time
There have been a lot of MotW episodes, so case files have technically take up most of the screen time. But the emphasis those MotW episodes is what I'm speaking of, their relevance to the characters. They've centered more on clarifying Dean's head space than anyone else's so far this season. If you're interested in more on this I posted a response (with a incredibly dorky table) about this ( ... )
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I don't think so. I thought that path was nicely laid as well, since when I saw that painting I assumed it was the Girl and the son she wanted to kidnap.
that brother looked and sounded years older than the sister), it would’ve explained why the “ghost” appeared to move so quickly from inside to outside the house
Very good point! I also thought they seemed different in age but I had assumed that there was more than one pregnancy, although I guess there was no reason to think so.
Why was it chopped up and tacked onto the end of two episodes that were loosely made relevant when it had the potential to be so much more?I have an unpleasant answer for that which also harkens back to other brother bonding moments in those last few minutes of show, such as in Fresh Blood and Wishful Thinking. They don't care if viewers tune out by that time and don't watch it, because it's too late to be measured as a ratings drop-off, and at the same time the fans who most want to see those scenes will always watch ( ... )
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one giving the TV a BHUZ face. According to the sides, the kids were originally fraternal albino twins. The albino part obviously didn't translate to the shoot so I don't know if we should assume the twin part did either or not. I suppose it's not important either way for the MotW story and there's no way to prove or disprove either scenario so I guess we just chalk it up to a detail only fandom would obsess over.
However, I did add a paragraph to this entry about why they cast an older male who was faceless and kept hidden for majority of the episode. And why he was shot by Dean and not the MotW with a face, the girl.
they make for good cliffhangers whereas an unsolved case will not.Yes, true. But it would be refreshing to have the brotherly moment be of a different nature once in a while. Dean making some statement about Hell while Sam looks on ( ... )
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