Shipping Wars...

Oct 10, 2005 02:01

I have no problem with admitting defeat or when I’m wrong. I have no problem with agreeing to an opposing argument if the case proves to make sense to me. But I do have a problem with people assuming and people who, themselves, cannot have the backbone to admit when they are wrong. And this is the main reason why there is shipping debates; people ( Read more... )

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kanoei October 13 2005, 16:58:01 UTC
Euhm, hi. I don't know you and I found your journal because I liked your icon so much and I wanted to find out who made it ( ... )

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weezerchi October 13 2005, 20:37:02 UTC
Um, okay. That was a little hostile. Ladie-A wasn't making any absolute statements that HHr shippers are all victims or all peace-wanting. There are some people (on both sides) that harass the other ships. And there are people on both sides who don't harass other ships. But she was commenting on a community that exists specifically to bash HHr shippers and that it seems right now, after the JKR interview, that many RHr shippers are throwing her statements in the HHr ship's face ( ... )

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ladie_a October 14 2005, 00:48:07 UTC
I’m sorry that you have been hassled by some H/Hr shippers in the past but that isn’t what my post is about. And I’m not out to make H/Hr perfect little angels either. I’m simply referring to one community who chooses to steal site content and using it to mock us. I really don’t mind if you want to have a different opinion or even believe us to be wrong. I haven’t been in the H/Hr fandom for as long as you have been in your R/Hr fandom. This shipping war is a new experience for me, and yes I do see that some R/Hr’s are nice. I have an online friend who is one but we never argue about who’s illiterate and who’s right.

Anyways, all I’m saying is the shipping war is getting crazier by the minute. People resort to personally attacking and no one wants to back down. It isn’t fair to those few good shippers (R/Hr and H/Hr) who get dragged into this. There will be certain people who feel obligated to fight for no reason. And that’s what keeps the shipping war going.

By the way,weezerchi, how do I credit you on LJ? I only know how to do ( ... )

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weezerchi October 14 2005, 02:39:32 UTC
Umm...I dunno. Maybe a mention in your user profile? Hmmm...

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kanoei October 14 2005, 09:16:37 UTC
To credit you can do like I do it (go check my icons)
And I will try to explain how to do it :)

When you upload userspic's you see these boxes "keywords" and "comment" where you can write something in next to your icon.
To give credit you use the "comment" box
If I wanted to credit you for your icon I would write *weezerchi* without the little stars in the beginning and ending.
This litte thing then turns into a link to your lj.

Hope I was of help :)

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kanoei October 14 2005, 09:18:47 UTC
Damit, the link still worked...
ok, I'll try again. <*lj user="weezerchi"*> This is the tag that you use, again without the little stars :)

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ladie_a October 15 2005, 16:31:43 UTC
Thanks for clearing that up for me guys. ^.^

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kanoei October 14 2005, 09:05:24 UTC
I also have friends who ship other ships. Actually, in fanon, I ship Harry/Ron, so I have absolutely no problem with other ships.

It's just that, what I got from your post was that all H/hr shippers have been very nice and that this all just started by R/hr shippers bashing them, and that is not true, it comes from both sides...

And it's not just the shipping. I also have encountered many H/Hr shippers journals who bash JKR for it. Who say that HBP is a bad book, that she is a terrible writer, that the plot sucks... Just because their ship did not happen. That is just a bit to far I think.

How about diejkrdie or dierondieThank god that LJ took most of those down, but these two still remain! This isn't normal anymore ( ... )

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red_hurricane October 15 2005, 19:51:43 UTC
That's absolutely horrible to me, the way you chose to respond.
I think Ladie-A said what's on her mind but really ignored the obvious. People in the fandom are attacking each other, personally, without knowing who the other person is.
You, kanoei, are doing exactly what you're saying H/Hr did to you back then.

"I'm really sorry, but instead of reading between the line for something that is not there and will never happen, why don't they try to actually read the book and see what's there."

Dear, this is exactly what you had to "suffer" through. It's wrong to say you're not doing the same because you just opposed yourself. Whoever asked you what to believe or not? I (and my friends, including Ladie-A) will enjoy the other relationship. The one we see is worthy and intelligent and mature. I would never, EVER, write anything like that to an R/Hr fan on his journal though, just to annoy.

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kanoei October 17 2005, 09:06:05 UTC
What I had to suffer through, and trust me it was suffer, was something like this;

"You fucking stupid bitch, are you fucking stupid?? Why don't you go fucking read some children's books!! It's so obvious that our ship is gonna happen and everyone else is wrong and ignorant!!"

or

"Are you fucking insane!! Go eat a cookie you big baby!!" And anyway, Ron will die cause he's stupid to, just like you!!"

If you multiply that, then you come to the conclusion what I have been through.
And I am not even talking about giving my email around to all of their friends so that my inbox completely crashed, I even had to change my email...
Or how about hacking my lj and leaving hate messages??

You name it honey, and I have been through it.

I could have done the same thing, but I chose not to because I know how horrible it is...

I (and my friends, including Ladie-A) will enjoy the other relationship. The one we see is worthy and intelligent and mature. I would never, EVER, write anything like that to an R/Hr fan on his journal though, just to ( ... )

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ladie_a October 17 2005, 10:25:05 UTC
Come on guys, this is why I hate shipping wars. We misunderstand each other. Thank you Sarit, for sticking up for me and thank you Kanoei, for replying to my posts. Let's just leave it as is.

Agree to disagree? ^.^

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kanoei October 17 2005, 11:24:28 UTC
Sorry, I'm sure it's not our intention to pick a fight or something like that. I'm really trying to be nice and I think we are being civil to eachother :)

But I couldn't say nothing, it would be rude not to reply to someone and I really think it important that people understand what I'm trying to say so that we don't misunderstand eachother.

But you're right, we should agree to disagree :)

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red_hurricane October 17 2005, 21:52:09 UTC
Hey Ladie-A, sorry to let this happen on your journal, that's pretty rude coming from me.
Kanoei, my reply was my first time ever replying directly to anything regarding R/Hr written by anyone. I wish I'd stick to my usual happiness in my H/Hr world and ignore the ship wars, it worked great so far. I'm really sorry it had to be on your post because you were actually nice to Ladie :(
I hope we can be friends still :?

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ladie_a October 17 2005, 22:32:40 UTC
It's okay guys, really. No harm done.

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kanoei October 18 2005, 08:22:12 UTC
It's really ok :) No harm done.
You were actually very civil in my opinion :) Besides, it's not because we like different ships that we cannot be friends.

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