Shipping Wars...

Oct 10, 2005 02:01

I have no problem with admitting defeat or when I’m wrong. I have no problem with agreeing to an opposing argument if the case proves to make sense to me. But I do have a problem with people assuming and people who, themselves, cannot have the backbone to admit when they are wrong. And this is the main reason why there is shipping debates; people ( Read more... )

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weezerchi October 13 2005, 20:37:02 UTC
Um, okay. That was a little hostile. Ladie-A wasn't making any absolute statements that HHr shippers are all victims or all peace-wanting. There are some people (on both sides) that harass the other ships. And there are people on both sides who don't harass other ships. But she was commenting on a community that exists specifically to bash HHr shippers and that it seems right now, after the JKR interview, that many RHr shippers are throwing her statements in the HHr ship's face.

"There is no longer any point for R/Hr shippers to debate with us. They are canon, stated by the author herself. And that is all okay with us. Really it is. Some people might react differently but the majority of us have accepted this."

I can't speak for all shippers who got cut out of canon, but I agree with this. JKR said it, it's there, whatever. But we can still have our own opinions about what we READ in the books and have our ship in fan fiction and art, can't we? If it was the other way around, I personally would have let the "delusional" shippers carry on enjoying their respective ships and minding their own business.

I'm sorry that you've felt harassed in the past, but it's no reason to take your bitterness out on Ladie-A and mistake her opinion as an insult. I would think that you could relate to the fact that this whole shipping war is just plain not good.

P.S. I made Ladie-A's icon...you can use it if you credit. :)

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ladie_a October 14 2005, 00:48:07 UTC
I’m sorry that you have been hassled by some H/Hr shippers in the past but that isn’t what my post is about. And I’m not out to make H/Hr perfect little angels either. I’m simply referring to one community who chooses to steal site content and using it to mock us. I really don’t mind if you want to have a different opinion or even believe us to be wrong. I haven’t been in the H/Hr fandom for as long as you have been in your R/Hr fandom. This shipping war is a new experience for me, and yes I do see that some R/Hr’s are nice. I have an online friend who is one but we never argue about who’s illiterate and who’s right.

Anyways, all I’m saying is the shipping war is getting crazier by the minute. People resort to personally attacking and no one wants to back down. It isn’t fair to those few good shippers (R/Hr and H/Hr) who get dragged into this. There will be certain people who feel obligated to fight for no reason. And that’s what keeps the shipping war going.

By the way,weezerchi, how do I credit you on LJ? I only know how to do it on forums and such.

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weezerchi October 14 2005, 02:39:32 UTC
Umm...I dunno. Maybe a mention in your user profile? Hmmm...

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kanoei October 14 2005, 09:16:37 UTC
To credit you can do like I do it (go check my icons)
And I will try to explain how to do it :)

When you upload userspic's you see these boxes "keywords" and "comment" where you can write something in next to your icon.
To give credit you use the "comment" box
If I wanted to credit you for your icon I would write *weezerchi* without the little stars in the beginning and ending.
This litte thing then turns into a link to your lj.

Hope I was of help :)

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kanoei October 14 2005, 09:18:47 UTC
Damit, the link still worked...
ok, I'll try again. <*lj user="weezerchi"*> This is the tag that you use, again without the little stars :)

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ladie_a October 15 2005, 16:31:43 UTC
Thanks for clearing that up for me guys. ^.^

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kanoei October 14 2005, 09:05:24 UTC
I also have friends who ship other ships. Actually, in fanon, I ship Harry/Ron, so I have absolutely no problem with other ships.

It's just that, what I got from your post was that all H/hr shippers have been very nice and that this all just started by R/hr shippers bashing them, and that is not true, it comes from both sides...

And it's not just the shipping. I also have encountered many H/Hr shippers journals who bash JKR for it. Who say that HBP is a bad book, that she is a terrible writer, that the plot sucks... Just because their ship did not happen. That is just a bit to far I think.

How about diejkrdie or dierondie?
Thank god that LJ took most of those down, but these two still remain! This isn't normal anymore...

It's to bad that some people sicken the entire fandom with their childish behavior (on both sides) and that normal people (like us), who are open to discussion and talking, have to take the fall for it.

I didn't mean to be rude, if that's how it looked like...
But it's just... I mean, how stupid is this whole shipping war anyway??? I cannot believe that so many people actually got into it...

HP is wonderful, but to turn these books in some sort of romantic novel where only Hermione and her love of her life counts, that's just insane... Actually, when you look at it, it's quite hilarious :)
And anyway, in the books they are 16! I remember when I was sixteen (4 wonderful years ago), I certainly wasn't busy with the love of my life! lol.

Anyway, if I insulted you in anyway, I am very sorry. It was not my intention. I just wanted to bring in another perspective.
greets.

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