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Nov 20, 2006 21:33

So, what does it mean to be a man? The question really has come up a lot in my head since I turned thirty. Whether it just be the natural course of a mind at this age or the societal expectations around me, I cannot help but keep falling back to the matter and wondering if I measure up to the ideal in any form. Thoughts on the subject were only ( Read more... )

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umokay November 21 2006, 13:01:41 UTC
I don't know how it happens but for the past couple years every time I get something stuck in my mind for a weekend that I want to post about that seems really important to me I go on LJ and find you have just plopped down a post with the exact same sentiments and words.

No, seriously. And I'm not even going to bring up the fact that I changed my LJ name to lyrics from Thunderball just yesterday because I couldn't get the song out of my head. I'm not sure what sort of cosmic tangent you and I seem to be on but it's just plain wacky that it keeps happening.

Sorry, just had to point that out.

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billyduran November 21 2006, 13:53:55 UTC
Ok, that Thunderball thing is a little weird. But, then again with all the Bond hype it's not unheard of that some people might be on a Bond kick. If you want to try and find a way out of the oddity of it with rational explanation. And I'd dare say the lyrics with the combination of Tom Jones make it the most masculine song in the James Bond series. Wouldn't you agree?

I did feel an urge to grow a beard right around the time you had one too. Though you may have subconsciously put the bug in my head for that one. I dunno... maybe you're a big fairy! LOL! I KID I KID!

Great minds think alike. We are in the presence of each other's genius.

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umokay November 21 2006, 14:46:53 UTC
Nice recovery with calling us both geniuses after hinting at me being a poof. Ok, not hinting. Flat out saying it. Do gay guys have a thing for beards? One of the things I had in my mind the whole time while having my beard was "There is no man that's gonna find me attractive with this." for some reason. And if you think that was why I grew it let me just point out I've shaved it since last week.

You're dead on about the Tom Jones thing but I'm just saying that beyond that there's been scary coincidences happening with your journal and what I go to post. Get past getting obessed with this movie and that, like seem to do right in time with you, there have been at least a dozen posts this year of yours that I've tought about copying verbatum just because it echoes my thoughts completely and I'm lazy like that.

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But you won't need to read between the lines.... billyduran November 21 2006, 14:59:44 UTC
Everyone's got a little gay in them! LOL!!!

I am so fucking with you to rattle your cage. Of course, I didn't know straight guys spent time wondering if gay guys were attracted to them. I found that no one was really interested with me in a beard except women. Though I did receive a few compliments on it I was not beating them off (figuratively) like I was Friday night clean shaven.

Maybe you should post first and read your friends page second. Then the world can see that I am not the only mentally deranged one out there! Now take your medication! Does having these frightening commonalities (is that a word??) make you question your masculinity?

What about having a kid? Did that help you feel like a man? Do you think Russell Crowe is a man's man?

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Re: But you won't need to read between the lines.... umokay November 21 2006, 15:12:34 UTC
I was so thinking you were going to say a little gay in them, then out, then in again, then....well you know ( ... )

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Belgian Chocolate billyduran November 21 2006, 15:24:58 UTC
You don't seem to have a problem forming sentences once you get going. Spelling and grammer? That's another monster.

So, even if I like someone to lay saran wrap over my face and then take a dump on it, you'll still consider me one of the guys?!? This is the kind of acceptance I needed during my formative high school years!

The word 'cock' freaks me out. Next time, say penis, schlong or tally-whacker.

You and I both had our little breakdowns around the same time too. Maybe we should be roommates like The Odd Couple.

The last part of your comment was as if you were speaking in tongues. So I'll just nod and agree.

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It's not spaghetti, it's linguine. umokay November 21 2006, 15:34:20 UTC
See, I have no problem forming sentences but I get to a point where I'm talking it out and the words make sense coming out of my mouth but when it's down on paper or screen it makes no sense. As for grammar and spelling, I've given up with those. I know damn well there's no point in me correcting them. I need an editor to be by my side constantly.

Sure, you're one of the guys. I just don't need to know your love for Boston Steamers.

I counter your offer of penis, schlong and tall-whacker and demand instead of those we use the terms; wang, doodle or gizmo.

So which one of us would be the messy one or should I just ask Neil Simon for his input?

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Thunderballs billyduran November 21 2006, 15:41:44 UTC
Well, in the end the only one that it really needs to make sense to is you. Then, post-humously people will think of it as some mysterious art form.

Just One Of The Guys?

How about wang-doodle? It has a Willy Wonka ring to it.

Maybe you should ask Neil Simon if he finds beards attractive.

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Re: Thunderballs umokay November 21 2006, 15:43:47 UTC
Is Neil Simon gay?!?!?

And so be it, from now on I will refer to my tool as a wang-doodle or a wonka.

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Re: Thunderballs billyduran November 21 2006, 15:52:23 UTC
I don't know if he is or not actually. But, then again, who isn't.... even just a little, right?

Let me know how it goes with the ladies using your new terminology.

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Re: Thunderballs umokay November 21 2006, 16:06:22 UTC
I don't know. I picture Neil Simon as being 100% hetero.....then again, he does work in theater.

He probably is all about the wonka.

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Re: Thunderballs billyduran November 21 2006, 16:33:24 UTC
I'll have to check my members list to see if Neil Simon is on it. If not, maybe I'll have a chance at another toaster oven!

Go wanka your wonka!

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Re: Thunderballs billyduran November 21 2006, 21:49:37 UTC
And you know what touches me the most. No, not my local priest. The fact the someone noticed at least one of the James Bond lyrics I have been spreading throughout my subject lines all week.

You love me. You truly love me.

I was thinking about this on lunch. It's the little things.

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Re: Thunderballs umokay November 21 2006, 21:52:29 UTC
Good cause this gives me a chance to comment about how I have a huge man-crush on Daniel Craig, because I was thinking about that after my last response and didn't want to comment about it out of the blue.

I so need to go see Casino Royale this week.

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Re: Thunderballs billyduran November 22 2006, 01:31:27 UTC
LOL! As if segways were even needed around here.

That's what I have been reading all about. How Craig appeals visually both to men and women. He's like Austin Powers... women want him, men want to be him. Maybe you should blog about these strange feelings you're having...

Yea... for real. I am going to see it a third time. The movie makes me want to fuck a woman!

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Re: Thunderballs umokay November 22 2006, 13:04:34 UTC
Oh they aren't strange feelings. It's just a man crush. You know, where you because he's so cool and smooth you just want to be like his sidekick and help him kill and spy and all that. There's nothing more then admiration there because, quite frankly, he's butt ugly. Seriously, have you considered the fact that if take away his hair, which it looks like mother nature is already doing, and look at him he is a spitting image of Dr. Evil, with smaller ears.

And besides, didn't I just babble on how I don't put too much emphasis on a person's sexual tendencies? Who said if I found him attractive the feelings would be strange. There's a lot about me I actually don't post about.

Though I would like to see your shining endorsement as a right next to two thumbs up in the commercials for the movie.

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