I... weirdly don't have much to add, but definitely 100% word to Stefan having a surprising sense of inferiority re: Damon. Just because Stefan considers himself the GOOD brother doesn't mean he sees himself as the BETTER brother. And if he weren't The Good Brother, what's to stop Elena from preferring Damon?
I actually think Stefan is wrong on that score--I think Elena does love him for who he is (or, at least, his human side), and not just in relation to Damon. I doubt Elena will STOP loving Stefan because he's fallen off the wagon again. HOWEVER, the reason she chooses to be WITH him is because he "made a choice to be good"--therefore, her love for him is justified. Likewise, the reason Elena chooses NOT to be with Damon is because any romantic feelings she has for him cannot be justified. He's done so much evil (and unlike Stefan, he's committed evil while she's known him); he snapped her brother's neck; he abused Caroline, etc. Elena cannot reconcile her love (whatever kind of love that is) for him with her
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seriously some of the Delena-fan reactions against Stefan/Elena have been fairly odd and I keep thinking ‘are we even watching the same show?!’Hmm. I am bothered when people dismiss the importance of Stefan to Elena... Or in some fic where it turns out Elena REALLY loved Damon ALL ALONG!!11! lol. I mean, I think what makes D/E compelling is that it's not a conventional romance. S/E is based on the fact that Elena loves Stefan, CHOOSES Stefan. That's something D/E do not have, and yet they are this equally powerful relationship anyway? Their connection is not founded on romantic love. Which is why they ~resonate with me more
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That's exactly what I love about Damon/Elena too, their ambiguity (minus the declarations of love. I'm serious about this. Just, no)! I mean wtf is wrong with me? I adore that part in the second half of the first season where Damon says "I sincerely hope Elena dies". And unlike a lot of D/E theories/reactions I've seen, I personally think he was perfectly serious about it. And I loved that-- the fact that Damon hasn't been in love with Elena since 4EVA, that at the beginning he simply didn't care about her as anything more as a way to get back at Stefan, that their relationship, whatever it is, was really an organic growth. That he might never have fallen for her if Katherine hadn't betrayed him, that he might have gone back to Katherine if she'd accepted it-- it serves to make the Damon/Elena dynamic so realistic. It's not your usual 'bad boy with an easily breakable heart of 24 carat gold' getting (or, in this case, not getting) the girl, but because despite everything they're
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I'm anticipating that so much, because I can't wait to see how everyone handles themselves with Stefan gone! Heh, Paul's so excited to play ripper!Stefan and Ian's terrified Damon's going to transform into Stefan II xD Thanks bb! <3
It is rather strange- especially when you go through the beginning episodes and find that it's usually Stefan who says cryptic things to Damon about his past which genuinely makes no sense in light of the later developments! So, I suppose they decided to change it or something? Haha, we shall never know, alas. :)
I just suddenly went from teams ‘Go Damon’ and ‘Stefan needs a 2/3rd reduction in screen time’ to TEAM SALVATORE BROTHERS, RAH RAH. Heh, that’s what I love about this show; the more I reflect on it, the more it changes my hard-set opinions of the characters.
In this case it's Stefan the untrusty narrator and cover up king.You know, the idea of Stefan as an unreliable narrator never really occurred to me, that’s a very good point! I haven’t thought about it till now, but you’re right, Stefan has this tendency not to reveal something personal unless he is absolutely unable to avoid it. Like the time Elena discovered the other Gilbert Journals and found out about Stefan’s ‘ripper’ past. Till then, it had only been cryptically hinted at, but the extent was revealed only at that point. But you’re also right in the ‘whitewashing’, he does tend to do that. I think a majority of it is because he’s horrified by his past exploits in a way that Damon isn’t. I’m sure Damon’s done a fair bit of killing, possibly a lot (although definitely not to
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Stefan's one of those chararcters who seems great with certain characters because they bring out different facets of his personality
CAROLINE. I love her because not only is she awesome herself, she makes everyone around her awesome. Stefan's interactions with her were the time I genuinely fell in love with him. Like that particular scene in Daddy Issues when he brings Elena and Bonnie over to keep her company, it just makes me tear up a little each time because that was an absolutely wonderful thing to do. Not to mention she reminds him of Lexi, and he needs a Lexi
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I... weirdly don't have much to add, but definitely 100% word to Stefan having a surprising sense of inferiority re: Damon. Just because Stefan considers himself the GOOD brother doesn't mean he sees himself as the BETTER brother. And if he weren't The Good Brother, what's to stop Elena from preferring Damon?
I actually think Stefan is wrong on that score--I think Elena does love him for who he is (or, at least, his human side), and not just in relation to Damon. I doubt Elena will STOP loving Stefan because he's fallen off the wagon again. HOWEVER, the reason she chooses to be WITH him is because he "made a choice to be good"--therefore, her love for him is justified. Likewise, the reason Elena chooses NOT to be with Damon is because any romantic feelings she has for him cannot be justified. He's done so much evil (and unlike Stefan, he's committed evil while she's known him); he snapped her brother's neck; he abused Caroline, etc. Elena cannot reconcile her love (whatever kind of love that is) for him with her ( ... )
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That's exactly what I love about Damon/Elena too, their ambiguity (minus the declarations of love. I'm serious about this. Just, no)! I mean wtf is wrong with me? I adore that part in the second half of the first season where Damon says "I sincerely hope Elena dies". And unlike a lot of D/E theories/reactions I've seen, I personally think he was perfectly serious about it. And I loved that-- the fact that Damon hasn't been in love with Elena since 4EVA, that at the beginning he simply didn't care about her as anything more as a way to get back at Stefan, that their relationship, whatever it is, was really an organic growth. That he might never have fallen for her if Katherine hadn't betrayed him, that he might have gone back to Katherine if she'd accepted it-- it serves to make the Damon/Elena dynamic so realistic. It's not your usual 'bad boy with an easily breakable heart of 24 carat gold' getting (or, in this case, not getting) the girl, but because despite everything they're ( ... )
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In this case it's Stefan the untrusty narrator and cover up king.You know, the idea of Stefan as an unreliable narrator never really occurred to me, that’s a very good point! I haven’t thought about it till now, but you’re right, Stefan has this tendency not to reveal something personal unless he is absolutely unable to avoid it. Like the time Elena discovered the other Gilbert Journals and found out about Stefan’s ‘ripper’ past. Till then, it had only been cryptically hinted at, but the extent was revealed only at that point. But you’re also right in the ‘whitewashing’, he does tend to do that. I think a majority of it is because he’s horrified by his past exploits in a way that Damon isn’t. I’m sure Damon’s done a fair bit of killing, possibly a lot (although definitely not to ( ... )
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CAROLINE. I love her because not only is she awesome herself, she makes everyone around her awesome. Stefan's interactions with her were the time I genuinely fell in love with him. Like that particular scene in Daddy Issues when he brings Elena and Bonnie over to keep her company, it just makes me tear up a little each time because that was an absolutely wonderful thing to do. Not to mention she reminds him of Lexi, and he needs a Lexi ( ... )
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