Heights of hyperplasia

Dec 15, 2007 23:00

My God, I thought I had it bad with my acne.


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wicked_danu December 16 2007, 01:14:11 UTC
Yup, just a little over 2 weeks. Wish I could've stayed longer.. but oh well. I have my visit visa - yes, now I'm a 'visitor' - in my bag and a second copy in my wallet in case I lose either one.

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pebbles_patio December 16 2007, 00:45:31 UTC
How in the hell does he eat?!?!?

I'm so proud of you eating your green veggies and stuff. Your mum will be so happy. =)

xoxo,
pebs

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wicked_danu December 16 2007, 01:20:11 UTC
I hadn't even thought about that - how DOES he eat?! Hmm..

My mum's quite pissed off that I eat only veggies, actually, and no meat.

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bloodsaka December 16 2007, 04:30:30 UTC
you're leaving NCL on the 17th right? i looked at your booking ages ago. let me know if you get a lil somethin somethin :)

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wicked_danu December 16 2007, 11:01:01 UTC
Yes, leaving tomorrow :D I'll be thrilled to get a little something :)

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peccavo December 16 2007, 04:50:23 UTC
People do a lot of strange things in the name of religion. And there are always the weird fanatics. Jehovah's witnesses do undergo surgery, albeit without transfusions. This, combined with increasing chances of tainted blood-- and an unsteady supply of blood-- has led to new types of low blood-loss surgeries. If the guy wanted to have it removed, he would. Religion here is a shield against doing what he doesn't want to, for whatever reason.

This issue has also gone hand in hand in the US with the right to refuse medical treatment. At one point in time, doctors would not respect people's right to choose their own medical care. Thanks to legal action brought by Jehovah's witness, people have more freedom in this realm.

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wicked_danu December 16 2007, 11:09:32 UTC
Surely, though, the right of patients to refuse medical treatment could've been realized without Jehovah's Witnesses refusing surgery that involves blood transfusion.

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peccavo December 16 2007, 14:00:22 UTC
It didn't happen in the US organically. One group or another that had an objection to a standard medical practise had to sue, fight a ten year legal battle, take it to the supreme court, and win. Few groups have that motivation and drive other than people who feel their religion is being violated.

After having talked with witnesses and read the literature explaining why they refuse blood donation-- I think they have a very valid point of view. And they learn to accept that if they refuse the donation, it's tantamount to choosing to die. But also, in emergency situations, there are many witnesses who choose to accept the donation (say in a car crash), so they can live. The practical mentality towards this religious teaching is much more even-handed than it first appears to outsiders.

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salmonfish December 16 2007, 05:10:09 UTC
In fact, a lot of Jehova's witnesses are aware of different bloodless alternatives during treatment...

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wicked_danu December 16 2007, 12:24:58 UTC
I must say, though, that it's because of people's fussiness in their own treatment that we have fine refinements in medicine and surgery. Fussiness is good!

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wicked_danu December 16 2007, 21:00:18 UTC
Yeah we actually had a discussion about that in our medical ethics seminars. The discussion quickly turned to whether children are paretns' property and 'til what age?
Honestly though, it must be quite difficult for the parents to do it (and they shouldn't do it!).

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