Pro-vegetarian

Jan 16, 2007 22:42

I was just looking at some video clips from this website about cruelty to animals, vegetarianism etc... nir1 gave me the link to it. I'm already a vegetarian, so the clips don't really make me feel guilty [except about eggs and milk products], but one clip made me cringe at the sight of the horrid conditions under which animals are kept.

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peccavo January 16 2007, 18:57:06 UTC
Those conditions are common in the western world, however, they're not universal. I personally buy my dairy and eggs from more traditional farms that do not practice such cruelty to their animals. Food is labeled - cage free - hormone free - allowed to graze, etc. I haven't made the transition to having all my meat like that- I want to, though. But having Stal around, I can't just make big decisions like that which involve the two of us.

I'm personally not vegetarian, but I agree that there is a severe glut of meat in our society that frankly, is unhealthy and antiproductive towards social development. Humans are distinctly evolved to eat meat, but in small quantities.

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wicked_danu January 17 2007, 13:13:03 UTC
Well it's a big step - at least you choose to buy your dairy from farms where such conditions don't prevail. I mean, most people wouldn't go through the trouble of doing it, but you do.

Of course we're evolved to eat meat, but if animals raised for meat are treated so horribly, I'm sorry I just can't bring myself to eat it.

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peccavo January 17 2007, 14:07:29 UTC
I guess they don't have humane standards for the raising of meat in the UAE? Most kosher meat is raised and slaughtered humanely. Halel (sp?) meat is supposed to be raised and slaughtered humanely, but that relies on the dubious integrity of the farmers and butchers.
So, I guess I don't blame you for abstaining entirely. Just try to get enough protein in your diet, okay dear?

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wicked_danu January 17 2007, 14:23:30 UTC
Halaal meat is just as humanely slaughtered as kosher meat, but the problem is not with the slaughtering.. it's with the conditions in which the animals are kept and the way in which they're treated as if they don't feel a thing.

I do get enough protein.. our Indian diet is full of it. And my gay diet gets me some too, if you know what I mean ;)

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petite_boo January 16 2007, 19:21:45 UTC
Kewl stuff..i havent seen the video yet coz my mp3 earfones are lost since i've come bak from Pak :C....
BUT DANU I LOVE KFC :P:
muah....gud luck for all ur exams..God bless..
tc

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wicked_danu January 17 2007, 13:14:25 UTC
You don't really need earphones to watch the video.. you won't understand anything they're saying unless you understand Hebrew.

Sweetheart, KFC chickens are treated the worst!

Thanks for the luck.. need it for Biology.

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gabski January 16 2007, 21:44:44 UTC
hmm... interesting combination you choose... israel and dogs. what are you? some kind of jew-hater? ;)

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wicked_danu January 17 2007, 13:17:52 UTC
Oh yes, I hate them dirty, stinkin' yahoodis.. those sons of apes and pigs! May they be damned to hell ;)

You are a nice yahoodi girl, though. We would consider treating you like a human if you would marry one of our burly bearded men, convert to our religion and be covered up like a bee-keeper all day long :)

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gabski January 17 2007, 19:43:24 UTC
hahaha... sometimes when i'm walking on the streets of manhattan, especially on a hot day when i'm wearing a tank top and the guys all leer at me i would be more than happy to throw on a burka :)

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Meh anonymous January 17 2007, 01:14:53 UTC
Although I dont agree with animal cruelty, I do agree with the "food-chain". Vegetarianism practiced by a miniscule portion of the world's population isn't going to make much of an impact on the animal rearing business. If practiced for the health benefits, its fine, if to save animals, sorry, not gonna happen.

-Ali

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Re: Meh wicked_danu January 17 2007, 13:24:51 UTC
Yes, the food-chain also says that the amount of energy available in the food source decreases by crazy percentages with each increasing level i.e. primary consumers like cows, goats, chickens, ducks etc. get only 10% of the total energy that the plant absorbs from the Sun [the ultimate source of energy]. Secondary consumers like lions, crocs, humans etc. get like 20% of the 10% that the primary consumers got i.e. 0.02% of the energy in the plant.

If more people practise vegetarianism or at least demand better living conditions for the animals whose meat they eat, it WILL make a difference.

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Re: Meh anonymous January 17 2007, 14:07:51 UTC
My point exactly, you realise that eating veggies is a quicker route to energy (thus healthier). People can protest all they want, they still cannot control each and every farm or abbatoir on the planet. Animal cruelty will still take place if the people incharge are blinded by the money.

-Ali

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Re: Meh wicked_danu January 17 2007, 14:24:36 UTC
Ah yeah.. that's painfully true.

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