Comments | wednesday42: Putting "Joe the Plumber" into perspective for a moment

wednesday42

Putting "Joe the Plumber" into perspective for a moment

Oct 16, 2008 13:22

With all due respect to Mr. Wurzelbacher, whom I don't know and toward whom I bear no ill will...

There seemed to be an effort to turn this particular gentleman into an "Everyman" of sorts. I'm rather pleased to see that the effort in general did not go over terribly well among the debate viewing audience. Regardless of Mr. Wurzelbacher's hopes ( Read more... )

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blythechild October 16 2008, 19:16:38 UTC

I didn't catch the debate (I'm sorta all politicked out at the moment), but I'd have to agree with your math. MB and I would earn a combined income of $280,000 in the next 4 years. And that's Canadian dollars. No kids, no house, no equity, no money left over. And we're doing okay for ourselves.

Who ARE these people with 200K annual income who can't make ends meet?!?
*grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*

wednesday42 October 16 2008, 20:01:54 UTC

There is a (remote) possibility that a number of them are families with multiple children now in college or suffering from massive medical expenses, but I'll go out on a limb and speculate that the majority are people who would be doing rather well for themselves if not for the exorbitant lifestyle they've chosen to pursue (all in the name of "creating jobs", of course...).

mercurylass October 16 2008, 21:01:01 UTC

Civilized debate only. This is where our philosophies diverge and why I rarely post my political opinion on here as politics can make people nuts...but this is why McCain kept hounding on this point ( ... )

zenrin October 16 2008, 21:55:47 UTC

It is a choice of 2 evils luv! Don't feel bad... I agree with ya! I already give more than 30% of my earning to State and local govt, I don't want to give anymore!!!!!

My more conservative political opinions would not be popular either!

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misspinki777 October 16 2008, 19:33:30 UTC

It was so hard to pay attention to the debate last night with McCain makes faces every time Obama said something. I have no idea who to vote for and have had a massive headache researching sites for straight facts. All this talk of Joe Blow, Joe Plumber, etc...Ack! I just don't know what this means to me? I don't fall in anywhere of what they're talking about. :(

I've been on www.usmessageboard.com to see if someone there will just give it to me straight.

wednesday42 October 16 2008, 19:59:32 UTC

It does get hard to keep track of all the details, especially when emotions run as high as they are right now. I've been making use of the "Fact Check" (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/category/fact-check/) articles that appear after debates; they're often helpful in clarifying blurry points, or pointing out when a "fact" is a stretched point or outright wrong.

I admit, my own beliefs put me pretty firmly at the same end of the political spectrum on a consistent basis, although I do make an effort to look into both sides involved. (I do look at third-party possibilities, but I have yet to be dazzled by any of them.) As much as it tends to over-simplify a candidate's platform, I do tend to use their position on specific issues (education, birth control, etc.) to guide me. It at least gives me a jumping-off point for research. I also (especially this year) try to take into account the candidates' followers/"fans" and how I feel about them ( ... )

pelaithaliel October 17 2008, 00:09:12 UTC

It was a very manipulative tactic, but not well thought out enough to be effective. Joe the Plumber can afford to pay a hell of a lot more in taxes than I can. I think most Americans were not won over by this obvious tool.

My question is this, if they don't want to raise taxes, where do they expect to get the money to cover all this debt and spending? Don't they realize that taxes are where we get government income? Morons.