The woman in episode 3 got to say on camera that she worried she wouldn't have much clothing at the end of the show. Nobody addressed this within the show.
Isn't that lovely. They also don't take into account what people do in real life. I saw the episode where this woman wore comfy clothes to walk her dog. The outfit they gave her for it looked like something that someone in LA would wear to walk theirs.
I'm sure that if they saw my stuff, they'd really freak. With the fibro, I can't wear heels and that is all they seem to want women to wear.
I believe I am glad that I cannot watch this show, due to having no cable.
Getting a properly fitting bra is probably the most useful thing they're doing for these women. At least Queer Eye for the Straight Guy worked with what the guy actually liked and wanted to do... this show sounds like it's trying to squish women into a socially approved box.
I know I could use a bra fitting but worry about how much money in products they'd try to hit me up for afterward. I also know that it's nearly impossible to find an A, my current size, at any measurement in less expensive stores, let alone one without underwire.
Queer Eye took the guys' tastes and hobbies into consideration. Aside from episode 3's occasional odes to motherhood, Guide to Style does not bother thinking about the woman's life.
Her bras were dead, too, the elastic was shot and they didn't fit-- it looked like she was wearing all her pre-pregnancy bras still, which just does not work ever.
Really, they should have a bra-fixer show. It would be awesome.
I can't find ones that fit. I'm a 36A by default because it's hard enough to find an A in that size, let alone a 38. (Not that I'm certain that's correct either, but it would be more comfortable.) That said, I'm slowly replacing some of the ones that are really shot.
It wouldn't do me any good. I've looked at online guides to finding your perfect size and they might as well be written in a dead, foreign language.
Oddly enough your description reminds me of why I ran screaming from the television the first time I ever watched the American version of 'What Not To Wear'.
The British Version with Trinny and Susannah was amazing to me. Yes they often encouraged women who felt ashamed of their large bosoms to show them and be proud of them. But what they did was often flattering to the women, matched their body shapes and skin tones, made them look younger and fitter and happier.
I loved that they'd take someone who never moved past sporty college look into sporty adult look. Even as they too promoted heels it never stopped them from applauding the choices of flat shoes as long as they were beautiful and well made
( ... )
I have to add however, that hating Trinny and Susannah while shopping seemed to be a universal trend among the people they were helping.
Shopping is a science, an aerobic exercise and some sort of zen experience to them. And it wasn't for most of the people on the show; they didn't want to have to remember all those various rules and not just buy the comfortable things they always had. Or sometimes they forgot and T&S would come barreling into the shop so the $2k wasn't spent on the same old, same old.
Ah, yes, Trinny and Susannah charging in with "Stop!!!!" when they saw a major no-no on the hidden camera. Good times.
I hate shopping with a passion. Every time Tim Gunn smugs with a "Does that fit you?" I would have sneered back that nothing I own actually fits me because nobody seems to design pants for petite, longwaisted women and I can't afford to tailor all my clothing.
I am 5'5, with a long high waist and a belly that won't go away no matter what I do. The only fricking thing that would fit me according to them, sounds like an empire waisted dress. And heels!
Though I'm assuming they wouldn't be all 'Lose Weight! Fibromyalgia Our Left Tits! High Heels!'
No one could want to wear high heels more than I. Because I -adore- boots. But I have weak ankles that twist randomly. And a fall from flat soles is much less painful than a fall from heels which would likely add further torque to the sprain.
Since it's a matter of not if but when I fall, I just view the pretty boots through the window and wish there were more made with flatter soles.
And I bail, too, for totally different reasons.lady_ganeshSeptember 23 2007, 01:53:08 UTC
That woman was so clearly suffering from some kind of depression-- postpartum extended through many years, perhaps?-- that it's still upsetting me. (Hello, trigger! I didn't know I had you!) The show seemed to show that retail therapy cured what seemed to be years of poor self-esteem, self-flagellation, and feelings of inadequacy. Somehow. I doubt this.
Re: And I bail, too, for totally different reasons.viridian5September 23 2007, 02:05:35 UTC
I'd so had it with this show that I kept flipping between it and the season finale of Burn Notice. Plus, I wouldn't be able to diagnose postpartum depression, though I think it's entirely possible. (But she can't possibly be depressed from having babies! Motherhood is holy!)
I keep forgetting to mention my distaste over how Guide to Style keeps suggesting that if you have enough to spend on the right clothing, accessories, and upkeep you can buy confidence and happiness. Maybe it thinks it dodges that by always failing to mention how much this all costs.
Re: And I bail, too, for totally different reasons.lady_ganeshSeptember 23 2007, 02:10:59 UTC
Was the season finale good?
It just seemed very very familiar (from personal experience), especially the way she felt guilt about everything and couldn't stop crying.
It didn't bother me with the other women, because they seemed pretty happy-- to me at least-- and just wanted a change in their wardrobe. This woman was so clearly, deeply miserable, for reasons that seemed to have very little to do with her clothes.
Re: And I bail, too, for totally different reasons.viridian5September 23 2007, 02:15:58 UTC
It had some slow moments, but Sam showed his mettle big time. Then it ended on a cliffhanger with a notice that next season doesn't start until next summer. Bastards.
Even as the show tried to make her feel better about herself, there was also this subtle feeling that she was a mother so of course she felt guilty taking any time for herself. It's only right! Gaaah.
Then having what's her name as an example of the woman who can do it all really got me. Sorry, but most women can't have six kids and start her own fashion design house all at once. Most women don't have her kind of money either. When Project Runway showed her and her husband's home, my jaw dropped.
Oh, I will say one thing to be fair to the show-- I suspect the makeup is actually better, when the camera is not rolling. My guess is the women are wearing way too much nasty foundation, and that works well to cover them up onscreen, but IRL they look better wearing something lighter.
It doesn't make me want to have their makeover, though. My problem has always been that I can't find a foundation that isn't beige/orange. My skin actually is a kind of aged ivory tone.
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I agree with you about how they do not mention how much it costs - and that they want the person to get a whole new wardrobe.
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I'm sure that if they saw my stuff, they'd really freak. With the fibro, I can't wear heels and that is all they seem to want women to wear.
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With my vestibular issues and how I took a fall while in three-inch heeled pumps in July, I've been strongly encouraged to avoid heels.
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Getting a properly fitting bra is probably the most useful thing they're doing for these women. At least Queer Eye for the Straight Guy worked with what the guy actually liked and wanted to do... this show sounds like it's trying to squish women into a socially approved box.
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Queer Eye took the guys' tastes and hobbies into consideration. Aside from episode 3's occasional odes to motherhood, Guide to Style does not bother thinking about the woman's life.
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Really, they should have a bra-fixer show. It would be awesome.
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It wouldn't do me any good. I've looked at online guides to finding your perfect size and they might as well be written in a dead, foreign language.
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The British Version with Trinny and Susannah was amazing to me. Yes they often encouraged women who felt ashamed of their large bosoms to show them and be proud of them. But what they did was often flattering to the women, matched their body shapes and skin tones, made them look younger and fitter and happier.
I loved that they'd take someone who never moved past sporty college look into sporty adult look. Even as they too promoted heels it never stopped them from applauding the choices of flat shoes as long as they were beautiful and well made ( ... )
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Shopping is a science, an aerobic exercise and some sort of zen experience to them. And it wasn't for most of the people on the show; they didn't want to have to remember all those various rules and not just buy the comfortable things they always had. Or sometimes they forgot and T&S would come barreling into the shop so the $2k wasn't spent on the same old, same old.
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I hate shopping with a passion. Every time Tim Gunn smugs with a "Does that fit you?" I would have sneered back that nothing I own actually fits me because nobody seems to design pants for petite, longwaisted women and I can't afford to tailor all my clothing.
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Though I'm assuming they wouldn't be all 'Lose Weight! Fibromyalgia Our Left Tits! High Heels!'
No one could want to wear high heels more than I. Because I -adore- boots. But I have weak ankles that twist randomly. And a fall from flat soles is much less painful than a fall from heels which would likely add further torque to the sprain.
Since it's a matter of not if but when I fall, I just view the pretty boots through the window and wish there were more made with flatter soles.
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I keep forgetting to mention my distaste over how Guide to Style keeps suggesting that if you have enough to spend on the right clothing, accessories, and upkeep you can buy confidence and happiness. Maybe it thinks it dodges that by always failing to mention how much this all costs.
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It just seemed very very familiar (from personal experience), especially the way she felt guilt about everything and couldn't stop crying.
It didn't bother me with the other women, because they seemed pretty happy-- to me at least-- and just wanted a change in their wardrobe. This woman was so clearly, deeply miserable, for reasons that seemed to have very little to do with her clothes.
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Even as the show tried to make her feel better about herself, there was also this subtle feeling that she was a mother so of course she felt guilty taking any time for herself. It's only right! Gaaah.
Then having what's her name as an example of the woman who can do it all really got me. Sorry, but most women can't have six kids and start her own fashion design house all at once. Most women don't have her kind of money either. When Project Runway showed her and her husband's home, my jaw dropped.
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