Comments | veronica_mars: Very spoilery question about 3x02

eighthcloud in veronica_mars

Very spoilery question about 3x02

Oct 12, 2006 12:42

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unawakeagain October 12 2006, 13:14:02 UTC

Is this in the scene just after the break in which Veronica goes to his dorm to talk to him? I don't think he mentioned a time. He just said that they dropped her off and the other girl helped him get her upstairs.

eighthcloud October 12 2006, 14:25:44 UTC

It's in a later voiceover, though. We've got it figured out in later comments. :)

_fortunes_fool October 12 2006, 13:14:47 UTC

I just watched that bit again. Apparently, the girl who helped take Parker home, said she left Moe at midnight, not Parker's room.

sarach October 12 2006, 13:54:23 UTC

according to vmtranscripts he doesn't say anything about the time, just that there was another girl with him...

"MOE: Whatever they asked. I didn't do anything wrong, Veronica. She was fine when we left.
VERONICA: We?
MOE: There was another girl in the cart. She wasn't drunk or anything, she just the cart so she didn't have to walk alone. Parker was so out of it, she helped me take her upstairs.
VERONICA: What was her name?"

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pinoytvjunkie October 12 2006, 14:15:30 UTC

i checked out the scene and there was no mention of midnight or anything like that. it ended with "What was her name?" like the transcript given by sarach said.

eighthcloud October 12 2006, 14:20:37 UTC

This was in a Veronica Voiceover, though. It was just after that scene, she says something about "Well, the RA's story checked out, so and so said she didn't leave Parker's room until after midnight."

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Help me understand? crnbrry October 12 2006, 16:00:02 UTC

This doesn't relate to clues so much as how the investigation is proceeding ( ... )

Re: Help me understand? eighthcloud October 12 2006, 16:05:57 UTC

Well, Veronica thought it was a sex toy, when it was really the shaver. And it turned off because the person knew she was in the room. If I had walked in on someone being raped, I know I'd feel terrible. It's just the "If I'd only..." thoughts that keep coming back, you know?

I do agree with you, though. People are hard on Veronica. Hell, Veronica is hard on Veronica.

Re: Help me understand? details15 October 12 2006, 16:16:25 UTC

I agree, that in normal circumstances, what Veronica did was fine. But in the aftermath, I think anyone would still feel guilty about not stopping it, even if they didn't know it was happening, but what if they had turned on the light or said something? The what if is what makes Veronica feel guilty, even though she didn't do anything wrong.

Re: Help me understand? crnbrry October 12 2006, 16:39:26 UTC

Yeah, I can understand the regret and what-if feeling... but everyone else seems to be agreeing with it, like, "Yep, you should have, you judged her unfairly and now see what you did."

Even Mac. Mac roped Veronica into her own guilt.

Yeah, they're hard on themselves, but...

I dunno. Doesn't seem right to me. There's a difference between being spooked that you could have stopped it, and self-recrimination because you see your actions as YOU screwing up and as a result of that, someone gets hurt. Parker didn't get raped because Veronica didn't interrupt. She was in real trouble already. Veronica didn't enable the rape, or set it up, or cheer it on. She just witnessed it.

I guess the logic of causation rather than correlation (and correlation in itself would be "what if" inducing) bugs me.

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