Yeah, I forgot to mention the part where he said "Did it hurt me?" and I said, "Yes." It was such a solemn exchange. More was said than was said. He knows I have a tender heart. He does too sometimes, he got it from me :-)
Why would that sound crazy? It's very similar! Cosmetic surgery on babies? What is up with our culture tellin us that this is OK??!?!?! (I too, was told that Ben wouldn't feel any pain. I'm pretty sure they realized they HAD to say that or I wouldn't have gone ahead with it. Trust me, anyone who was there would definitely beg to differ ...)
When Emory is older, if the skin tag bothers HIM, he can choose to do something about it. And I'm sure they will give him something for the pain as a child or teen or adult. Maybe it will never bother him and he'll embrace it as part of who he is :-)
My eldest son is also cut. I wasnt sure about it back then either. I have a strong belief that since God created the penis like that, it functions best in its original creation. But without knowing much about it (and the internet wasnt big when he was born...hes 12 now) and I just didnt know where to find info nor did I have the kahonies to speak out against it
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its complicated for me because i grew up with a jewish father and an agnostic mother who was americana christian (easter bunny and santa, no jesus) and identified as jewish growing up. it IS required of jews. BUT, these are the same people who also require you to have a jewish mother to be jewish. children of jewish fathers are considered non-jewish and must convert. part of the reason i wanted ben circumsized was so that maybe he could be accepted when he got older? lol. by "blood" he is 1/4 jewish and by jewish law, he is 0. my mother wasn't jewish, so i am not, so he is not. done deal. if he wants to convert, i guess this one small issue will already be taken care of, but that seems pretty unlikely at this point. we are raising our children with very little religion, but answering questions as best we can as they ask. they go to jewish and christian holidays with family members. they've been to religious services a handful of times for both religions. but at this age, its here color this paper
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Im a Christian. Gotta wonder what Bible *those* Christians were reading. It sure wasnt the Bible of my Father! Not going to get into the whole religion thing here, but His word is clear. Everyone has a choice and its yours to make, not God's. He gives clear instruction on consequences of our actions and choices. We choose to believe, or deny. As for children, they cant make that choice, as they dont understand it. Children are to be taught the love God has for us. His love, His sacrifice, His gift. When one understands that, the choice comes later. :)
What a brave mama you are. Your honesty and integrity will make such an impact on your children. I am so impressed with you. you might consider this for public publication'i am sure mothering online would take it.
really though? its not like amazing writing ... honest, yes. particularly standoutish or unique? well, not in my opinion. i mean, places like mothering probably get a thousand submissions per day and i'm pretty sure they're all better than this. this is like flow of conscsiouness raw material ...
It might not be sparkling writing, but the emotion is very powerful. If you wanted to, you could make this into a polished, persuasive piece. If someday you want to, it'll be here to polish :-)
My children are intact. However my younger brothers were circumcised due to health issues. They were 4 & 6 at the time, and they received anesthesia and pain medication for their surgeries. I don't agree with routine circumcision, but I do feel that if you're going to get it done, it needs to happen when the children aren't in diapers.
yeah, circumcising for health reasons is like having your appendix out or your tonsils out. if something is wrong, you do it, but you don't do it to your NEWBORN because something MIGHT go wrong in the future. and arguing that it would hurt more in the future just breaks my brain and my mama hulk green monster escapes and i attack people brutally until someone comes and breaks it up.
you don't hurt BABIES with the argument that its ok because they wont remember the pain. fuck. when people don't understand that, i am not even sure where to go next. i ask if sexually abusing babies is ok then? "its ok cause they won't remember it, right?"
two of my husband's brothers got into with me on this subject and i almost disowned myself from that family. (the he here is a theoretical future son)
"if he wants it done, he can get it done when he's old enough to choose for himself"
"DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT WOULD HURT?" screamed BIL
"SO THAT MAKES IT OK TO DO TO A BABY??!?!?!?!?!!?" shreiked me at volumes no one in that house has heart me
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i definitely am. but at the same time i feel like i opened a bag of worms. leave it to my daughter to say something like "when my brother was a baby my mama cut off part of his pee-pee! she's sorry though" at like, idk, the grocery store check out line or something ...
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Why would that sound crazy? It's very similar! Cosmetic surgery on babies? What is up with our culture tellin us that this is OK??!?!?! (I too, was told that Ben wouldn't feel any pain. I'm pretty sure they realized they HAD to say that or I wouldn't have gone ahead with it. Trust me, anyone who was there would definitely beg to differ ...)
When Emory is older, if the skin tag bothers HIM, he can choose to do something about it. And I'm sure they will give him something for the pain as a child or teen or adult. Maybe it will never bother him and he'll embrace it as part of who he is :-)
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really though? its not like amazing writing ... honest, yes. particularly standoutish or unique? well, not in my opinion. i mean, places like mothering probably get a thousand submissions per day and i'm pretty sure they're all better than this. this is like flow of conscsiouness raw material ...
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I don't agree with routine circumcision, but I do feel that if you're going to get it done, it needs to happen when the children aren't in diapers.
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you don't hurt BABIES with the argument that its ok because they wont remember the pain. fuck. when people don't understand that, i am not even sure where to go next. i ask if sexually abusing babies is ok then? "its ok cause they won't remember it, right?"
two of my husband's brothers got into with me on this subject and i almost disowned myself from that family. (the he here is a theoretical future son)
"if he wants it done, he can get it done when he's old enough to choose for himself"
"DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT WOULD HURT?" screamed BIL
"SO THAT MAKES IT OK TO DO TO A BABY??!?!?!?!?!!?" shreiked me at volumes no one in that house has heart me ( ... )
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