next up, Ant-Man!

Jun 10, 2012 01:53

So, in order to qualify for having any opinion about The Avengers (I'm not allowed to find it bland and hypocritical without giving the franchise more money, apparently), I got around to watching both Thor and Captain America. (I'm not watching the Hulk movies. It's just not gonna happen. Sorry.) And, in what I'm sure will be a huge relief to my ( Read more... )

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workerbee73 June 9 2012, 17:05:42 UTC
omg thinky thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooughts!!!!!

I WILL BE BACK.

**tackleglomps you first**

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themonkeytwin June 11 2012, 02:43:12 UTC
Wheeeeeeeeeeeee! :)

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tahirire June 9 2012, 17:11:55 UTC
Lol, oh you.

Sorry, I blacked out from orgasm when you said 'Kenneth Brannagh.' *fans self*

HEEEEY, I LOVED CELLULAR, TOO!! :D *highfive*

And now, HISHE.

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themonkeytwin June 11 2012, 02:47:40 UTC
'Kenneth Brannagh.' *fans self*

INORITE?

*Cellular highfive!* Have you seen Sunshine? Another little step on the way of me thinking, hey, this Chris Evans guy, not too shabby.

Aww, you brought me HISHE! You really do love me :) Also, lolomg, so true.

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tahirire June 11 2012, 02:49:32 UTC
No I have not! *adds to watch list*

HISHE makes my life. <3 The new Star Trek one is my all-time favorite. :D

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themonkeytwin June 11 2012, 04:05:07 UTC
Bonus: Cillian Murphy, being all pretty and not!creepster.

The new Star Trek one is my all-time favorite.

*adds to watch list*

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jaydeyn_sitari June 10 2012, 00:47:02 UTC

Odin, All-Father Worst. Father. Ever. Ugh. Who teaches their kids to be utterly xenophobic and racist about their own species. Facepunch to him. And yeah, am kinda looking forward to Thor waking up to just how wrong and manipulative he is... though sad Thor puppy-face will likely be heart breaking ( ... )

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themonkeytwin June 11 2012, 04:01:12 UTC
Who teaches their kids to be utterly xenophobic and racist about their own species.

I recently ran across this, Loki: An Allegory About Internalised Racism while browsing Social Justice League.

And it's not just that; I identify as a John-girl, so it's not like I can't have sympathy for dads with external responsibilities who make dumbass family decisions through lack of reflection on the consequences of their well-meaning actions (the kindest possible interpretation of Odin's behaviour). But added to that, from a ruling/kinging perspective, stealing this baby makes no diplomatic sense. Either he WAS a runt, despised and abandoned, and therefore of no worth to the Jotuns whatsoever, or Odin kidnapped the crown prince and brainwashed him for a millenia to revere and serve Asgard (and hate the people he's supposed to be helping build a lasting peace with). At which point you can only suppose this seemed reasonable to him because this is the way Asgard conducts foreign policy, or because he's an overbearing asshole and doesn't care ( ... )

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datenshiblue July 3 2012, 03:02:13 UTC
It's as interesting to me, reading your reaction to Cap The Movie as it seems to be for you to study the American cultural mindset. ;)

For my part, I was shocked at just how dark they allowed the movie to be. And it should be. It needed to be. But I never expected them to let a summer blockbuster (I believe it was, in 2011), just be that.

Someone looked at the basic bio of Cap, the comic book character, and zeroed in precisely on the incredibly painful irony of his fate. And laid it out just like so.

Given the material, Chris was the absolute perfect actor for the part, because he has an ability to project a sincere innocence, in a body that doesn't just happen without a LOT of work.

Did you see The Losers? Just curious ( ... )

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themonkeytwin July 3 2012, 12:24:15 UTC
It's as interesting to me, reading your reaction to Cap

Ha. :) Why's that? My approach to stories, this story in particular, or just the way different people respond to this story generally?

just how dark they allowed the movie to be. And it should be. It needed to be.

It absolutely needed to be. Cap's only as grounded (and weighted) as his mission is serious. There's an element of Nolan's Batman in that, too; that trilogy has opened up a lot of ground for comic book movies to explore the genuinely dark and the genuinely tragic. I thought Cap was pitched just exactly right, the balance of every element was exquisite.

And Chris Evans? There are a metric BUTTLOAD of reasons he perfect for that role, in that story, in that style. But yeah, the innocence is a big part of it. Chatting to tahirire above, I mentioned Sunshine, in which he had a wonderfully serious role and was extraordinary in it (although he did deliver the one single joke in the movie as well, natch). When I remembered that, his casting as Cap made perfect sense (it probably ( ... )

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