Chapter Thirty

Apr 04, 2005 12:02

Grawp -

This’ll be fun! Who doesn’t like Grawp?

(Am still behind a good five chapters. I’ll post them sooner or later, unless Mirabella/y’all would rather we keep moving in a more linear fashion?)

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mirabellawotr April 7 2005, 13:59:52 UTC
I’ll post them sooner or later, unless Mirabella/y’all would rather we keep moving in a more linear fashion?

It doesn't matter really - there's not a lot of traffic, and it'll give other people who are behind a chance to catch up.

And yeah, it's kind of counterproductive to try to build tension in a Quidditch match when you know that no matter what deus ex machina Rowling has to pull out of her ass, we will all retire to the ice wastes of Hell to raise flying pigs before Gryffindor loses an important match.

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And now I try to get my comments in; part one. jollityfarm April 7 2005, 18:17:07 UTC
But they’ve made their point and inconvenienced their enemy (as well as screwing up their own education, not that that will matter, since theory has no use in the real world, and they’ll show everyone and become rich with their weapons manufacturing joke shop) so who cares?Indeed. Of course, it is often the way that characters nobody's heard of are of little consequence, and so it wouldn't matter if they happened to be caught up in whatever inconvenience-the-enemy plan the heroes happened to be getting done. If bad characters do, it's their fault for being bad; and if characters we thought we liked do, nothing terribly bad will happen (if it were anyone, it'd be the "bumbling" comic relief that would fall into the trap and escape with but minor bruises/cuts/dampness). Presumably, nobody at Hogwarts has a crippling phobia of drowning or suffocation, since there are no reports of panic attacks at the sight of the swamp ( ... )

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Re: And now I try to get my comments in; part one. merrymelody April 8 2005, 12:43:20 UTC
As for Fred and George's joke shop triumph, I am reminded of Forrest Gump here, in which education is something faintly suspect and what's really important is Pluck and Courage and a well-meaning nature which strives for its goals without needing to worry about whether any job was out there, because there are jobs aplenty for people who deserve them etc etc.Ugh, I loathe that film. 'Look what happens if you're interested in peace and sleep around ladies! You DIE OF AIDS ( ... )

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Re: And now I try to get my comments in; part one. jollityfarm April 8 2005, 20:38:37 UTC
'Look what happens if you're interested in peace and sleep around ladies! You DIE OF AIDS!'

Also: one can start a national movement just by doing what you always do anyway, small businesses always end up sucessful, it is not only possible, but preferable, to achieve an enormous amount entirely by accident and American boxes of chocolates apparently do not have the little pictures on the inside to tell you which one is which.

there's quite a strong anti-intellectual feeling in HP, I think.I think it's rather a traditional idea that brains are all very well, but there's something a bit suspect about someone who puts brains before other things. Such a person might shun healthy outdoor pursuits (such as sport) in favour of sitting alone and reading. Maybe they read for fun (we've never seen any evidence, to my knowledge, that Hermione reads for any reason besides superior marks in her exams and a chance to show off about her skills to others) and they're probably a bit pasty and scrawny, or pasty and chubby, and not posessing of a ( ... )

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Re: And now I try to get my comments in; part one. merrymelody April 8 2005, 21:08:31 UTC
I don't personally see where everyone is getting the "Draco is SO VERY GAY GAY LIEK WHOA OMG SO GAY GAY GAY" thingHeh. I don't see him that way (it can be very irritating, especially when it's 'OMG, Draco is cowardly/weedy/a drama queen, hence he must be queer, unlike hearty, healthy Harry/Ron/the Twins who are happy heterosexuals, being so macho and all') so much as the way he bullies is a very traditionally feminine one, in the boarding school genre - lots of gossiping, very little healthy macho violence. Grr! *flexs muscles ( ... )

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Part two. jollityfarm April 7 2005, 18:52:01 UTC
I’m still wondering why Fred and George didn’t just go get a job at Zonko’s.

I personally am wondering what Diagon Alley wants with more than one joke shop. Or indeed, any joke shops at all. Of course, I have never really found this stuff funny, so perhaps I'm not the best person to comment. I guess there's a lot of call for peurile bullying in the magical world. It's capitalism or something.

And what on earth did they find so fascinating about the Twins’ departure that they filled many hours? I can discuss it in three words: ‘They’re gone. Yay.’

I wonder myself. I remember reading a piece of fanfic that featured a grouphug lasting for half an hour, and how silly that looked. Even if one found the story of Fred and George's departure endlessly fascinating (which I don't, but that's just me and you there), how can it fill "several hours"? Especially since Harry is determined not to tell them why he wanted a distraction in the first place (even though that would just make them say "well, he deserved it")

I guess prying can work as a ( ... )

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Re: Part two. merrymelody April 8 2005, 12:09:04 UTC
I personally am wondering what Diagon Alley wants with more than one joke shop.

It's been pointed out to me that Zonko's is in Hogsmeade, which is why there's one in DA. But yeah, I'm still missing the point of them altogether - they don't sound like ones IRL, with costumes and toys, they sound like torture chambers - 'To my right, are the sweets that make you vomit, to the left, the ones that cause you to choke! Have a nice day!'

I guess there's a lot of call for peurile bullying in the magical world. It's capitalism or something.

Heh. It's like that comment on the giant chapter - bullying people could be what unites the WW!

Even if one found the story of Fred and George's departure endlessly fascinating (which I don't, but that's just me and you there), how can it fill "several hours"?

God knows. 'OMG IT WUZ SO KEWL!11' repeated on an endless loop, complete with interjections about 'This'll show Umbridge, bwhahaha!'? Glad we missed it.

It is odd, I think, that Harry has not even dreamed of asking what his parents did for a ( ... )

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Re: Part two. jollityfarm April 10 2005, 19:23:46 UTC
bullying people could be what unites the WW!

Well...you know that, at the end, we do indeed see members of Gryffindor, Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff all band together to attack three Slytherins. I can't help imagining that this is what Rowling means by "inter-house unity". I forsee a future in which Slytherin house is abolished, since the children that end up there are obviously evil from birth and cannot be allowed in the school. Without Slytherin house, the rest of the school can co-exist peacefully without any problems!

And with his mum, there's even less interest than with James.

He didn't look for his mother in the exam room, that's for sure. Wouldn't he? Or maybe she wasn't there. I mean, one would think she'd be at once recognisable, what with her emerald eyes (hey, let's shoehorn in another mention of Harry having his mother's eyes yet a-fucking-gain) and pretty hair. We all know how Harry likes pretty hair, after all.

Well, people who get to befriend the Trio should count themselves luckyIt does seem to be the attitude, ( ... )

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xerox78 April 7 2005, 22:40:57 UTC
* Luna Lovegood overtook them with what appeared to be a live eagle perched on top of her head...

I'm surprised that she actually rooted for her own house over Gryffindor. I assume that she was properly happy that Gryffindor beat Ravenclaw since Ginny has not dropped her like a bad habit yet.

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merrymelody April 8 2005, 08:59:06 UTC
Yeah, so was I, which is pretty pathetic in itself. I'm surprised we didn't hear chapter and verse on how insensitive she was: 'Can't she stop cheering for Ravenclaw?' *big sigh* 'Hasn't she done that enough?!'
I guess it was out of sight, out of mind, and perhaps she taught the Gryffindors a lesson in sportsmanship and said 'Well done' after.

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