Chapter Thirty

Apr 04, 2005 12:02

Grawp -

This’ll be fun! Who doesn’t like Grawp?

(Am still behind a good five chapters. I’ll post them sooner or later, unless Mirabella/y’all would rather we keep moving in a more linear fashion?)

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Re: And now I try to get my comments in; part one. merrymelody April 8 2005, 21:08:31 UTC
I don't personally see where everyone is getting the "Draco is SO VERY GAY GAY LIEK WHOA OMG SO GAY GAY GAY" thing

Heh. I don't see him that way (it can be very irritating, especially when it's 'OMG, Draco is cowardly/weedy/a drama queen, hence he must be queer, unlike hearty, healthy Harry/Ron/the Twins who are happy heterosexuals, being so macho and all') so much as the way he bullies is a very traditionally feminine one, in the boarding school genre - lots of gossiping, very little healthy macho violence. Grr! *flexs muscles*
Like even the way he interacts with Pansy is kind of manipulative in a way that's not 'manly' in this particular 'verse, that I've seen (I'm constantly getting in trouble with this, because I say something like 'Blah blah, X is girly/flabby and thus evil!' and someone's like 'Huh? WTF?' before I backtrack 'No! I meant that that's an exaggerrated version of the message in the text, imho! Not literally in my own opinion!): he knows what she wants to hear, in a way that Ron or even Harry can't manage with the girls in their lives...because they're too goshdarned honest and boyish?
But yeah, it's a fairly wild exaggeration from canon, even for JKR and her traditionalism in gender, not to mention having several large holes (Voldemort/Tom Riddle being a fairly major one.)
And that some good characters can be vain themselves - Ron, the Twins (Hermione? I haven't read GoF in ages, probably not...)

I am surprised that our heroes have not yet run into a horribly over made-up Pansy Parkinson/Millicent Bullstrode/some other woman and enjoyed the opportunity to see what a tragedy an interest in cosmetics can be. I'm also surprised Dolores Umbridge wasn't covered in slap, you know.

Yeah, me too. We had Pansy in horrible pink frills at the Yule Ball, though, didn't we, which indicates that she is probably Teh Vain, and worst, Teh Tasteless and thus Teh Evil!!11 (I'm getting sick of typing 'Teh'...;)

He will get an E for Transfigurations.

Of course! *coughs* Set-up!

I've said this before - Neville's going to be there for the whole seven years.

*sighs* Poor class. Neville will be the Ralph Wiggum of the group, except not as entertaining.

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Re: And now I try to get my comments in; part one. jollityfarm April 8 2005, 22:09:59 UTC
Heh. I don't see him that way (it can be very irritating, especially when it's 'OMG, Draco is cowardly/weedy/a drama queen, hence he must be queer, unlike hearty, healthy Harry/Ron/the Twins who are happy heterosexuals, being so macho and all') so much as the way he bullies is a very traditionally feminine one, in the boarding school genre - lots of gossiping, very little healthy macho violence. Grr! *flexs muscles*

Oh yes, I do see where you're coming from there. Draco is definitley of a more "feminine" type - if by "feminine", we mean being underhanded, intuitive, emotional etc. Of course, Harry is emotional too, but it's a macho kind of emotion where he would, if the books allowed it, shout things like "STOP BULLSHITTING ME" and "DON'T FUCK ME ABOUT HERE". Draco's emotion is more passive and less shouty. He is, as you suggest, more the type to spread gossip about his enemies rather than punch them in the head (even if he doesn't actually spread gossip, Harry assumes he will, which suggests it's the sort of thing one could see Draco doing).

I'm constantly getting in trouble with this, because I say something like 'Blah blah, X is girly/flabby and thus evil!' and someone's like 'Huh? WTF?' before I backtrack 'No! I meant that that's an exaggerrated version of the message in the text, imho! Not literally in my own opinion!

Haha, yes. See also: "you obviously think being feminine relates to only a set number of characteristics, therefore you are the sexist"; and "why are you complaining that we think a character is gay? Do you think there's something wrong with being gay?". The willful misunderstanding of an argument/joke/opinion for the sake of it.

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