The return of the Putin III

Mar 04, 2012 23:06



I think this vid is pretty succinct, how'dya think? Well, the exit polls are unambiguous. There'll be no 2nd round, Putin wins the presidential election in Russia. 58-60% roughly. And no surprise there.

The result was anticipated, and is hardly a shock for anybody. More important is what the opposition's reaction would be and what are Putin's next ( Read more... )

russia, elections, dictatorship, video

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htpcl March 6 2012, 09:17:11 UTC
Be my guest ( ... )

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htpcl March 6 2012, 14:41:55 UTC
They were fools but Putin's court are smarter, right? ;-)

Yep, they should've found the truth back then, namely: Stalin had ordered the decapitation of the Polish military elite. But those fools from the Allies chose not to do that, to preserve their friendship with Stalin. After all, the Yalta conference was the most important thing at the time. Funny how Realpolitik works, isn't it?

> All links that you gave have the same quality, and reliability.

Would've been nice if you had read them.

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pofigistiks March 6 2012, 15:13:15 UTC
They were fools but Putin's court are smarter, right? ;-)
Russian court said the same thing, as the Nuremberg Trials.

After all, the Yalta conference was the most important thing at the time. Funny how Realpolitik works, isn't it?
Politics a funny thing.
And the power of the Red Army - it was the most important thing of a thing at a time;)

Would've been nice if you had read them.
Why do I need to read obscure sites, if I read historical works on this subject?

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htpcl March 6 2012, 15:41:13 UTC
> And the power of the Red Army - it was the most important thing of a thing at a time;)

And as we know, the powerful of the day reserve the right to write history.

Now you're on to something. :-)

> Why do I need to read obscure sites

Yes, thanks for making my point.

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pofigistiks March 6 2012, 16:17:06 UTC
And as we know, the powerful of the day reserve the right to write history.
Therefore, after the collapse of the Soviet Union he was accused of all sins.

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htpcl March 6 2012, 16:45:36 UTC
Putin writes today's history, with the help of his "independent" courts.

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pofigistiks March 6 2012, 17:16:22 UTC
Nope. Russian court reiterated what had been known since 1945.

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pofigistiks March 6 2012, 13:05:27 UTC
At first, it was a political decision.
Second, people make mistakes, and then principally to correct these errors. That the court did.

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abomvubuso March 6 2012, 13:07:07 UTC
Ah, okay then. For a moment I thought that all the independent sources were on to something. Turns out the court has already postulated the Ultimate Truth ;)

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pofigistiks March 6 2012, 13:23:37 UTC
Court on the basis of the facts come to the conclusion that the shooting was in September 1941. At this time, these places were occupied by the Germans.

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abomvubuso March 6 2012, 13:28:27 UTC
That's kind of interesting. Care to provide an excerpt of those facts?

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pofigistiks March 6 2012, 13:57:21 UTC
For example these:

1.
In September 1941, 11,000 Polish officers who were prisoners of war were killed in the Katyn Forest near Smolensk.
Nuremberg Trial Proceedings Vol. 1
Indictment : Count Three
COUNT THREE - WAR CRIMES
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/count3.asp

2.
The defense of Smolensk took place during the period July 10 - August 5, 1941, after which the city was handed over to German troops

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abomvubuso March 6 2012, 14:27:18 UTC
But I'm asking about the 1940 massacre, not the one in 1941 that was done by the Germans.

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pofigistiks March 6 2012, 14:41:21 UTC
You can ask about anything, but the Nuremberg trials says that the shooting was in September 1941.

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abomvubuso March 6 2012, 14:43:22 UTC
So are they fools or not, and do they talk nonsense or not? I'm confused :)

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