The return of the Putin III

[abomvubuso]

I think this vid is pretty succinct, how'dya think? Well, the exit polls are unambiguous. There'll be no 2nd round, Putin wins the presidential election in Russia. 58-60% roughly. And no surprise there.

The result was anticipated, and is hardly a shock for anybody. More important is what the opposition's reaction would be and what are Putin's next

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[telemann]

I saw Masha Gessen's interview with Jon Stewart, discussing her biography of Putin. I'm going to buy an electronic copy of the book tonight, it looks fascinating. If anyone else is reading it now, I'd love to hear what you think of it. Thanks ;)

[fizzyland]

Pogroms in the 19th and early 20th centuries, though you will probably argue that they were friendly, mob-based suggestions that millions of Jews move somewhere else instead of just outright murder.

How many died in the gulags? In Stalin's purges?

[pofigistiks]

Pogroms in the 19th and early 20th centuries
These pogroms are not sanctioned by the government, is a manifestation of the will of the people, or ordinary robbery. That is, it does not state policy such as genocide of Indians, for example.

How many died in the gulags? In Stalin's purges?
I similar to information desk?
Bring the facts and we discuss them.

[mrbogey]

Unlike the Soviet and German ones, ours had most of the people survive it. It also was operated as billed whereas Soviet and German concentration camps weren't designed to just concentrate people. They were designed to kill off troublesome people.

And what's with bringing up FDR? America's right wing thinks he's a tyrant but would put him higher than Stalin and retrospectively above Hitler.

[fizzyland]

Why would America's right wing think FDR was a tyrant?

[mrbogey]

His then unprecedented usurping of powers. Including attempts to stack the judiciary and expand executive powers.

[pofigistiks]

Yeap.
But ... In the USSR there was no concentration camps. Never.

[htpcl]

Oh really? What were those, recreational facilities?

[pofigistiks]

In the U.S. there no prisons? And in the USSR and in Russia they are.
A gulag - a management organization, which united all the labor camps in a single correctional system. In the labor camps were placed criminals, not people on racial grounds as in the U.S. and in Germany as in England, etc.

[htpcl]

While the camps housed a wide range of convicts, from petty criminals to political prisoners, large numbers were convicted by simplified procedures, such as NKVD troikas and other instruments of extrajudicial punishment. The Gulag is recognized as a major instrument of political repression in the Soviet Union.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_transfer_in_the_Soviet_Union

...deportations of "anti-Soviet" categories of population, often classified as "enemies of workers," deportations of entire nationalities, labor force transfer, and organized migrations in opposite directions to fill the ethnically cleansed territories.

[pofigistiks]

Ha-ha-ha!
Yes, Wikipedia - a source of trustworthy!*
*sarcasm

[htpcl]

Well, Wiki is really not the ultimate thing, but at least it's a guideline to finding more info on a subject - like, the one that's hidden behind the relevant citations in the footnotes. It's part of doing a research, as opposed to saying "This ain't true, bye" without providing any actual evidence to support your refutal. ;-)

[pofigistiks]

So you have to give a link to the source, not on the wiki.

[htpcl]

Be my guest

[pofigistiks]

Walked selectively on the links.
I saw this the same wikipedia without proof.

The source can serve as a historical document, the work of the historian with a link to historical documents, and not fudge on the site (with pictures of bottles))), and links to news site. I do not see it.

For example, a historical document:
By the way, congratulations on the anniversary.

[htpcl]

> Walked selectively on the links.

Yeah, I know. :-)

Which anniversary?