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monicawoe September 29 2011, 01:40:49 UTC
I LOVE this theory. In my mind, that "yes" is forever.

Sam specifically asked Dean not to try to get him out because of the risk of freeing Lucifer again.

It is very odd phrasing too, on Castiel's part- that he'd specifically say "Michael in Lucifer's Cage." It would have been "Michael and Lucifer in the Cage," but it wasn't, because Lucifer isn't there anymore...

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tahirire September 29 2011, 02:14:06 UTC
*nodnodnodnodnod*

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etoile444 September 29 2011, 02:04:20 UTC
I think saying yes once locks you in forever. I wonder if the line was:

"We need to keep Michael and Lucifer caged." Did Misha say it just a tiny bit differently than scripted and they kept it?

I don't hear things correctly; so I am happy that everyone is discussing this. I heard, "keep Michael in Lucifer's cage."

Maybe the Leviathan was exerting its will. The Leviathan can be beaten by Michael?

Who am i kidding, y'all know i want a Lucifer/Michael team up.

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tahirire September 29 2011, 02:09:12 UTC
I played it back several times just to be sure, but it is clearly 'and we need to keep Michael in Lucifer's cage.'

Oooh, interesting supposition. I think the gist is that the Leviathans predate angels, so it would seem that God and Death are the only ones stronger, but Michael IS the right hand, so ... hmm.

OMG ME TOO. *hearts for eyes*

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blackcat333_99 September 29 2011, 02:07:03 UTC
That was a very curious wording. I wonder if it was meant to imply that Castiel still worried that if Michael got loose he could take out even a powered-up Cas, being that Michael was hailed to be the Big Kahuna, supposed to be able to take out Lucifer, so the bigger threat actually comes from Michael, rather than Lucifer. And for all that Castiel placed himself on the level of God, he never stated that he was more powerful than God, just that he was BETTER than God because he was active not absent. And Michael was God's supposed Champion as well as blindly obedient son who would undoubtedly take great issue with Castiel's current stance on God (unlike Lucifer, who would probably say "duh, I told you so" to Cas ( ... )

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tahirire September 29 2011, 02:31:58 UTC
I agree that it would be nice if Michael ended up that way. I think it would be epic if, next week, we get Jake as hallucination!Michael right along with hallucination!Lucifer.

THE ANGST, IT IS SO YUMMEH. And sad and skeery and sob-inducing.

... but I'm concentrating on yummeh. ;)

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feliciakw September 29 2011, 03:01:24 UTC
I reserve the right to change my mind at a moment's notice, but here's what I'd kind of like to see ( ... )

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tahirire September 29 2011, 03:21:01 UTC
I have no problem with Michael maybe getting out of the cage, but I don't see Jensen ever playing him. Dean never said yes to Michael, and he certainly wouldn't have a reason to do so NOW. However, it would be nice if this linked somehow into getting Adam out. I personally can't shake the thought that now that Sam is out, Adam isn't safe in there anymore. *quiver*

We'll just have to wait and see!

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themonkeytwin September 29 2011, 03:47:21 UTC
Hmmm some more, because you just made me realise that we saw meat on meathooks, and assuming it's a memory-hallucination of Sam's - but so far we DON'T know who's meat it was ... and who put it there. You really think Adam was SAFER in there because Sam was too? I'll just leave you with that thought, to pay you back from making me worry that we're STILL not done with angels and back to simple monsters. *shakes fist at you*

(I liked the angel story line fine. But I'm also happy to be moving on to something new.)

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tahirire September 29 2011, 03:56:00 UTC
Oh totally. Sam would protect Adam if he could.

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datenshiblue September 29 2011, 04:10:51 UTC
I don't think Lucifer is out, though I have no argument with your theory.

I noticed Cas's phrasing also. What I think about it is that he said "we need to keep Michael in Lucifer's cage", because Michael was the threat to Cas's agenda of taking over heaven, and being God. I don't think that Cas saw Lucifer as a threat to that agenda, not that he would be right, just tunnelvision.

After all, Lucifer told Sam he was in the cage, and Lucifer claims that he never lies to Sam.

That means either that Lucifer is out, but that wasn't really Lucifer, it's just Sam's hallucination of him, or, if it's really Lucifer, he IS in the Cage.

Or something. :)

I also had the same thought as others, that Michael may end up facing the Leviathan at season's end.

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tahirire September 29 2011, 05:36:41 UTC
Ahh, but Lucifer is the father of lies.

We shall see. ^.^

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