The homesexuals are coming for our childrens

Aug 26, 2007 20:30

Over in weddingplans, crazybouncycrls is having some issues with her racist grandmother. This isn't the stupid.

crazybouncycrls thinks it's especially odd because she's from California, which is more refined. , but someone else points out that racism exists everywhere... even in Maine. Here comes the kicker:

"Um, I live in Maine, and I don't think they're racist, I think they just Read more... )

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anomie666 August 27 2007, 01:47:47 UTC
These people are the future of this country...comforting thought, huh?

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anomie666 August 27 2007, 03:58:02 UTC
I googled it. Is this what you are referring to? Gay anime?

I learn something every day.

Its not my thing, but to each his own.

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anomie666 August 27 2007, 04:13:06 UTC
BTW, "anomie" has to do with Emile Durkheimm, not anime. My favorite sociologist (Max Weber being a close second).

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kwanboa August 27 2007, 13:26:01 UTC
If he's your favourite, why can't you spell his name?

Her question had nothing to do with your name. You fail hard.

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anomie666 August 27 2007, 14:41:46 UTC
It was a typo...it happens.

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kwanboa August 28 2007, 05:27:52 UTC
I suppose these things happen when you imbue things like your username with a sense of low synergy (a much more useful way of defining "anomie", as it were). Discontinuous cultural elements make for lack of utilizing spellcheck or merely looking back on one's words, am I right?

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anomie666 August 28 2007, 13:20:17 UTC
sense of low synergy is not how you define anomie.

It means "normlessness". It is a condition when you no longer feel guided by social structure; when there are no longer rules that can define your behavior.

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Wait a minute! mcity August 28 2007, 02:06:02 UTC
I just realized something! That's not a cowbell in your icon, it's a dead horse!

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laughlovelive August 27 2007, 04:33:56 UTC
.....must.....control....fist..of...death.....

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anomie666 August 27 2007, 16:26:51 UTC
When you get away from the emotional aspects of the argument and get down to facts, NCLB is hard to argue against. I noticed you are a school librarian, so you have probably been right at the forefront of this debate with the soundites from the teachers unions and everyone else.

When you change the status quo and take away aspects of teacher autonomy, of course there is going to be massive resistence. However, having real measurable standards of progress high expectations and standards for success have worked wonders for education.

I don't know if it is the same where you live, but we have found that teacher resistence to NCLB and standards reform has been dimissing year after year. For a long time, it was "fear of the unknown". Now, NCLB is the existing reality and it is being accepted as just a fact of life.

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laughlovelive August 27 2007, 21:51:32 UTC
Let me ask you a question....have you ever been a teacher?

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anomie666 August 27 2007, 22:24:57 UTC
That has nothing to do with the facts surrounding NCLB's success, does it?

No, I haven't been a teacher. I've been studying education for many years now and have spent significant amounts of time in classrooms all over the US.

Its perfectly understandable that teachers aren't happy with having certain aspect of their autonomy taken away, but I think our children deserve some form of accountability.

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laughlovelive August 27 2007, 22:49:43 UTC
It has nothing to do with the "facts" and I don't call them facts, a fact is 2+2=4. They are statistics. Statistics can and often are twisted to reflect what the people reading them want to see. Which is I think, what is occuring ( ... )

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anomie666 August 28 2007, 00:35:41 UTC
Statistics can and often are twisted to reflect what the people reading them want to see. Which is I think, what is occuring.

You need to learn something about statistics. What is reported is purely descriptive, not inferential. Every study (both funded by the government and non-governmental sources) have consistently shown steady progress since NCLB. There is not "twisting" when you are reporting passing percentages. That is not manipulation and inferences, it is purely reporting the facts descriptively. If you don't like the facts, so be it, but don't say they are being "manipulated".

The fact that you don't understand what the real issues are is glaringly obvious and unless you have been a teacher, again especially a teacher of the poor and ESL learners, I don't know if you will ever really understand what they are. Englighten me from your perspective? What is the issue for you then? You don't think ESL students should have standards? Previously, ESL students were given a language waiver and never told they they could ( ... )

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laughlovelive August 28 2007, 00:57:56 UTC
My my, aren't we getting testy.

What is reported is purely descriptive, not inferential.That's my point, thank you for agreeing with me. You are inferring that the students are learning more by saying that scores on the standardized tests are going up. The question is...ARE they learning more? Or is it that a) students are becoming more used to taking standardized tests? b) the tests have been altered so that more students can pass? c) teachers are cheating? Or any number of possibilities. If it's true that they are learning more, then that's great. If it's something else....that is a problem. The test being altered may actually be a good thing because it's no secret that these sorts of tests have often been biased towards white, middle class, suburban children ( ... )

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