Vulcans and Interspecies Bondings

Dec 09, 2009 19:52

I watched the Blood Fever episode of Voyager last night ( Read more... )

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threeb_1973 December 10 2009, 14:38:12 UTC
:-D I had no idea this would open such a can of worms, but I love hearing all the different opinions.

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cleojones December 10 2009, 18:21:46 UTC
But it was a fun can! ;)

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The thing about Vulcans startrekwriter December 10 2009, 11:55:00 UTC
Vulcans are supposedly very passionate below their 'cold' exteriors. They are not entirely logical.

And logic at least among humans, has been used very successfully to justify Xenophobia.

Think the Nazis.

It seems that Vulcans are in many ways superior to humans: analytically smarter, stronger, longer lived.

They could be "Xenophobic" and logically argue that it wasn't a "phobia" just a simple recognition of truth.

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Vulcan genes riiya December 10 2009, 15:31:44 UTC
Im not so sure if the vulcan gene in Spock is really THAT dominant...it maybe just how we perceive it, as human all we can see is how Vulcan he is, the pointy ears, the green blood, the weird eyebrows, the way he talks, walks, think etc...and to us his is very much Vulcan.BUT Vulcans might see how human he is...look at his eyes, his mouth, his not too pointy ears (by 0.0000823% or something like that) , his speech, how expressive his face is, maybe even the way he talk and walk, even if he was raised with Vulcan values, it was a human who train & nurture him, so he must have picked some human mannerism from her.

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Re: Vulcan genes hateya_habiba December 11 2009, 04:47:14 UTC
@Riiya

Perception is everything, isn't it?

it was a human who train & nurture him, so he must have picked some human mannerism from her.

Exactly. When it comes to my children, I *know* they are at a disadvantage in this society for having an American mother. My linguistic skills can't make up for the fact that there are things they most know in order to navigate in this society and *I* can't teach them. Almost every cultural value I possess is almost in direct conflict with theirs. I try to catch myself, but sometimes it's impossible and the poor kids suffer for it.

Therefore, while I understand I was meant to think that the Vulcan council guy was a bigot, my experiences give me wide berth to consider other options.

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slippery_stone December 10 2009, 19:32:33 UTC
Hmm. I should be studying for the finals I have today... However, I have a few thoughts on this, so I'll share ( ... )

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cleojones December 10 2009, 19:46:03 UTC
One last thing:

"The ensign fixated on Torres because there were no Vulcan females aboard the ship and he needed a mate."

That's the reason he gave (to justify it for himself), along with the whole Klingon strength schtick, but that's not the reason he fixated on Torres. He genuinely liked her. There is another episode from before he is in pon farr and he's totally trying to woo her.

It's like really obvious he has a crush on her.

I think he reserves a spot for her near him at a table with a nice view. She declines.

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threeb_1973 December 10 2009, 23:54:07 UTC
Really? I'll have to find that episode. Do you remember the name by any chance?

Thanks!

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cleojones December 11 2009, 00:27:00 UTC
Alter-Ego, thanks to memory alpha. Tuvok becomes fond of another in that episode too.

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