Wow! This is harsh!

[perfectly_n0rml]

At this weekend's annual Star Trek convention in Las Vegas, the JJ Abrams-helmed sequel - lauded for its cinematography, strong performances and action scenes -  was voted the worst Star Trek movie of the entire canon by avid Trekkies.

Really?  This makes no sense to me.  Discuss!

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[lurkch]

Clearly these people don't remember Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Avid Trekkies my derrière.

[perfectly_n0rml]

And the Final Frontier?

[lurkch]

Runner up. TMP is still the measure of Star Trek awfulness.

[spocklikescats]

Teehee - my UNfaves were [yes, the Motionless Picture is very apt descriptor and one I've used for years] TMP, The Final Frontier, and The Search for Spock, followed by most of the TNG movies [the one with Tom Hardy was the worst].

And I was so sad to see how rapidly Leonard Nimoy had aged before TMP, even. A living lesson in the ravages of cigarettes and excessive alcohol, both of which he has kicked, thank God.

[classroomnotes]

What's the typical demographic of a sci-fi convention? Now add to that the fact that the actors who were parts of panels were all from the older canon, not the newest crew. Even if I could have gone, I would have hesitated to pay money to see actors I like such as Jonathan Frakes or Connor Trinneer...but I would have jumped at the chance to see Zachary Quinto and Zoe Saldana and Chris Pine.

[perfectly_n0rml]

So you're saying that the panel - drawn from older canon - drew an older crowd? I would guess that would be true.

I think part of the problem is that people have just gotten so rude. I popped over to Trekmovie - and I cannot believe what they are saying right to Bob Orci.

I don't understand why are so many are having trouble accepting the new canon. I am an older fan - but I didn't watch the non-TOS iterations - until AFTER ST09 brought me back to the fold. So, I am not a typical older fan.

[lurkch]

I suspect by "older Trekkie" they actually mean people who started with TNG. Which would explain much I suppose. I'm not a big fan of the TNG universe (encompassing the other shows that take place in the same Star Trek time period: DS9, Voyager), I have to wonder if the reverse is true for those whose first exposure to Trek was TNG and not TOS.

[lantean_breeze]

I think "older Trekkie" means TOS. TNG was the most mainstream of the bunch.

[farstrider]

CreationCon still exists?

Seriously, though, it was 100 people, not everyone at the convention. The types of people who still go to these types of fan conventions are the hardest of the hard-core fans who have basically invested their lives and identities into the fandom. The type who voted STID last in this poll seem to be the insular fans who don't want Star Trek to change from the 90s. And before we get our knickers in a twist about what these hundred people think, let's drop some true-facts: Star Trek Into Darkness is the highest-rated of all of the big summer tentpole movies on Rotten Tomatoes this summer with 87% fresh rating. It is also the only tentpole movie of this summer that is in the top-250 at IMDb. Most people LIKE this movie. The Star Trek fans that don't like this movie still have their dvds of TMP or FF or Insurrection to cuddle up to. JJ and company are trying to reach a wider audience than the CreationCon going fan, and it seems they are succeeding.

~FS

[classroomnotes]

Well said.

[lurkch]

Every time someone says "tentpole movie" I think of something entirely different ... it's late and I probably should not be commenting on the Internets. :D

[farstrider]

Hahahahahaha! It IS late, and I'm not sure I actually want to ask what you think of when you hear or read "tentpole movie" :D

By the way, I'm reading that the person who conducted the poll is someone who has a known axe to grind against JJ Abrams, but that is internet hearsay.

~FS

[junewilliams7]

I still think TMP and The Final Frontier are worse. And I *like* GalaxyQuest!

[lantean_breeze]

I haven't read the other comments yet, but it makes complete sense to me. I'll leave it at that.