Comments | sisalfish: shamanism, trance, shining body: empowerment

sisalfish

shamanism, trance, shining body: empowerment

Mar 09, 2009 08:47

I'm in the middle of a one-year program to be a certified hypnotherapist, as part of the chaplain work I do with my corporation. And while I'm learning a lot (a LOT!) I'm mostly working on defining how I want to come at this ( Read more... )

triple soul, trance

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siduri March 9 2009, 14:13:05 UTC

I hope you will write more about retrieving the bits of one's own soul.

I wonder sometimes, what if an individual wishes the retrieval to remain private? Not have the community welcome it back?

What about simple maintainence? Do we have to assume all soul loss is a result of trauma? What about the wear and tear of daily life? Is there a way to do this kind routinue work?

And finally-what if there is no one to do the work for you?

sisalfish March 9 2009, 14:46:02 UTC

I will write more! It helps me line out what I know, what I'm beginning to figure out ( ... )

siduri March 9 2009, 14:53:56 UTC

It was my understanding the soul loss can happen for any number of reasons and that everyone suffers from soul loss from the ordinary wear and tear of life. Little bits can flake off, just like the paint job on a house. As your example suggests, it can be something mild like hearing "no" and a large piece or a small piece may have removed its self. It is just another perspective on this, I guess.

A CD would be super! I would want to test this out!

dark_phoenix54 March 9 2009, 18:21:12 UTC

I think you can only find this out by trying it out of different people. At least you know that people coming in for hypnotherapy are trying to make a change within themselves, so you're at least one step ahead of the average person! Remarkable work you're doing, btw.

Are you still working in the hospice?

sisalfish March 10 2009, 11:23:17 UTC

re: hospice

No - so much of that work was done in partnership, and I've turned away from that work for now, wanting to just focus on life. I still do death work through the corporate chaplain work I do.

re: working with different people
One of the things I love about having a trance team of diverse women is that they point out to me that not everyone sees things the way I do. I'll write a trance on having heard the sacred call to be a healer for lifetimes, and going back to see what wisdom you, in a past life, have to impart. That sounds nothing but affirming to me! But they pointed out that to some, that would be burdensome - to have three kids and be unable to grab time for yourself and think about what the universe wanted you to do, that you couldn't find time to do -

Which just let me tweak it to expand what "work as a healer" was (to include mommying). But it's really a good thing to have those other perspectives. I am confident, overachieving - not everyone is ...

northlighthero March 9 2009, 20:03:03 UTC

What exciting work you're in!

As to 'would this approach work for others?' ... my experience has been that the folks we hang out with who are wholly committed to growth, change, exploration, etc are mainly fine with being invited to do our own work and guided/facilitated in so doing. And that lots of folks who are less ready to do that work can benefit (and may choose to benefit) from someone doing the work 'for' them.

The tough call, for me, is that I can find myself in either one of those groups depending on the topic or, to a large degree, the age I was when Whatever It Was happened. Sometimes I need a shaman just so my pre-verbal self doesn't get lost on the journey and not have a way to ask directions.

I definitely resonate with the experience that 'mainstream hypnosis' is awfully directive. And, sometimes I have needed that (though not often).

Love

sisalfish March 10 2009, 11:28:38 UTC

re: needing directive ( ... )

firedancer_ny March 9 2009, 20:30:35 UTC

I have also had discomfort with the fact that shamans do the journeying/communicating/answer gathering/retrieval FOR the other person. That the person being healed is passive. I highly respect shamans and their work, but it's not a model that works for me.

I too look forward to hearing more about your training and your own unfolding model. And, one of these days, I will start writing again about my own learnings, discoveries, questions, experiences....

sisalfish March 10 2009, 11:32:04 UTC

Yes, I always think how much we could brainstorm about if we were sitting together over coffee! If I could have my perfect brainstorm, it would be you, me, northlight and Shauna just gabbing for days while someone else kept the coffeepot full -

firedancer_ny March 10 2009, 14:03:45 UTC

That sounds like a f-ing fantastic way to spend a few days!!!

shauna_aura March 18 2009, 19:51:30 UTC

I've been wanting to reply to this juicy topic for days, but my inbox has been. Well ( ... )

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The Soul emergingcrone March 12 2009, 12:35:28 UTC

Because I am Jungian in orientation, I see the soul loss as the part of ourselves that we stuff into the archetype of the Shadow. It is always available to us - and we are always showing what we have lost of ourselves when we engage with others ( ... )

Re: The Soul sisalfish March 12 2009, 13:48:24 UTC

Lots in here to think about ( ... )

Re: The Soul shauna_aura March 18 2009, 20:16:15 UTC

Aha, shadows. I'm having a "duh" moment, as I hadn't connected the soul retrieval work with shadow work ( ... )

Re: The Soul sisalfish March 20 2009, 11:32:37 UTC

I've been thinking over emergingcrone's take on shadow and soul loss being so closely related, but I can't get there. Like you, to me, they are two different things. Shadow - that's willful, a willfull pushing away of what we can't cope with, and it's just about us - not about another ( ... )

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