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anomalys February 28 2013, 01:26:02 UTC
I'm looking forward to closet-organizer Sheldon. It brings me back to S1 when he was so compelled to organize Penny's messy apartment.

I could do without bringing back the child-like Sheldon bit again though. (In the scene where Leonard tells Sheldon that it's late and time to go home... and Sheldon wants to stay and finish, so Howard offers to bring him home later.) I'll take oblivious and inconsiderate Sheldon over infantilizing Sheldon any day. At least it's just a brief lapse.

With everyone but Howard knowing what was in the letter... and Howard remaining unsure about finding out... I loved the whole 'Schrodinger's cat' approach at the end. Allowing Howard to both know and not know what was in his father's letter. Those are the kind of moments with the whole gang that are most enjoyable.

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melmay14 February 28 2013, 02:26:53 UTC
I am wondering if this is going to segueway into a Howardette pregnancy.

We have Howard, probably wanting to be the father he never had, maybe worried that he won't be a good father because he never had that influence in his life. Then, we have this development with his father's letter.

How has Howard gone through so much positive growth, and yet, the show otherwise has been a sinking ship? It's insane.

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ses1515 March 1 2013, 03:21:40 UTC
Howard is sure getting a lot of time this year. I do not mind the seconary characters getting there share in the spotlight but I rather they not get too much. I'm not sure if anyone will agree.

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melmay14 February 28 2013, 14:13:52 UTC
Hey this is a bit OT, but I figured here was as good a place to post it as any.

Even if you are not a Frasier fan, I think you will find this scene deeply insightful. Start it from 3:58 and run it till 5:45.

In it, Niles, who is married by the way, talks about never being truly happy in his whole life. Then, he goes on to describe the relationship with his wife. He says it is love, but when he describes it, it is clearly not love. It's a "different kind of love." Starting to sound all too familiar? Guess what, people? When love is a "different kind of love," it ain't love.

He talks about their boring existence. Him doing puzzles; her playing the harp, and describes it making them "perfectly content." But Frasier knows it isn't that healthy a relationship, and describes it as Hitler, towards the end.

Just check it out! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWG0OCqLBpYAnyway, spoiler alert, Niles and his wife DON'T end up together in the end. He finds himself with someone he is truly passionate about that makes him happy, even if it ( ... )

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sat_night_815 February 28 2013, 15:23:57 UTC
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! What a great clip. The parallels are obvious. Insert Sheldon and Amy and you pretty much have the same story. Hopefully, Sheldon realizes that love and fondness are not the same thing! Sadly, I anticipate the Lennys will use your example and twist it to their advantage. They will see a payout with Niles pining over Daphne and use it to justify their ship.

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taffinabean February 28 2013, 22:35:02 UTC
Lenny shippers would be pulling a muscle trying to stretch with that comparison. Leonard and Penny have been having awkward hookups since the beginning and then breaking up. Lather, rinse, repeat ( ... )

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jislane35 March 1 2013, 01:33:42 UTC
Oh my gosh I thought I was the only one who thought that way! That's totally how I feel right now, like why do I continue reading the reports if I already know what's coming by the end of this entire show?! Everything is just so predictable! The only question is just 'When is all of THAT (Lenny marriage, Shamy sex, Prnny's big break, Sheldon's Nobel Prize) going to happen you know?!

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jislane35 March 3 2013, 03:26:35 UTC
So I just recently read a Leonard/Alex one shot and it turned out really great especially for a lesson that Leonard has to learn for himself, this story proved that it has to be HIM to break off his relationship with Penny. Anyway give it a read, you won't regret it, even though the Shamy parts in it are a bit unrealistic LOL: http://m.fanfiction.net/s/9062724/1/The-Fade-Of-Love-Catalyst

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melmay14 March 3 2013, 14:54:18 UTC
Yeah, the Shamy part is definitely barftastic.

I thought the story was very good at explaining Leonard, and realistically analyzing Leonard's shortcomings. It was great to see Alex reject him at first because he was reverting back to his old insecure ways, and it took him getting right with himself first, before being ready for a true healthy relationship.

It kind of surprised me that the author could be so realistic about Leonard and so completely deluded with the Shamy relationship, but I digress.

I didn't like that there were parts that made Penny seem like the bad guy, but I suppose since it was from primarily Leonard's POV, that's how it was.

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jislane35 March 3 2013, 15:03:33 UTC
Well the author is a Shamy fan so I could understand why they were that way, its just hard to inagine him saying those three little words so easily with the way he's acting with her now, not to mention taking her for granted and not realizing what he had until she threatens to leave him And obviously Leonard would always have a negative outlook at Penny thanks to his insecurities and bitter attitude towards people who's lives are better than his own, the pint is that Leonard would have to be the one cut off what he had with Penny because whenever she herself tries to break it off with things don't go according to plan (ex. Alcohol, sex, fights, make outs, promises they don't intend to keep etc.) but the real question here is could Leonard actually 'fall out Iove' with Penny??? It seems impossible now! But in my opinion the author did pint out some good reasons as to why he should giving the way Prnny takes him for granted most of the time and isn't too appreciative with who he is instead of what he tries to be for her.

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gamma12 March 3 2013, 17:31:13 UTC
But that's one of the thing that I had a problem with in the story- Leonard thinking that he had given up who he was to be with Penny. The thing is that I don't remember Penny ever asking him to do that. It is part of why Leonard is attracted to Penny- she represent normal and normal is something he always thought he wanted and he thinks he had to change to get it. Its always been his own insecurities driving him and while the whole bad relationship is not all Leonard's fault it is certainly not all Penny's either(who mooned over who for 2+ years, who restarted the relationship despite the fact he thought it was a bad idea.) He claims to have fallen out of love- maybe a little more introspection on his part would label it as infatuation. I do agree that it really needs to be Leonard who wakes up and realizes what a bad relationship he has with Penny for the whole thing to finally be over.

Yeah I like how the author just threw that Shamy bit in. Please.

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gamma12 March 6 2013, 13:53:42 UTC
http://forum.the-big-bang-theory.com/topic/3278-big-bang-theory-taping-reports-from-3rd-season-to-current/page-8#entry104480

Here is a link to the next episode for what its worth. Its called the Tenure Turbulence.
It reminds me a lot of the Egg Salad episode- well it does have the same hr character- but the feel of it is similar.

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shellsyke March 6 2013, 14:09:58 UTC
I have to say, I think the Sheldon scenes with Roots and slavery bother me more than the Shamy and Lenny scenes. Very cringe-worthy. Kinda LOL at the Sheldon/Raj "Yo Momma" scenes though.

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gamma12 March 6 2013, 14:31:39 UTC
Yeah I thought the same thing when I read that scene. Its the same way that they have him acting in Egg Salad.

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taffinabean March 6 2013, 16:42:06 UTC
Yes that seemed to be the only really funny line because of Sheldon making a sexual comment but OY at him telling Amy to take out her breasts. I mean do we really have to be subjected to this imagery? ugh.
lol

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