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jislane35 March 3 2013, 03:26:35 UTC
So I just recently read a Leonard/Alex one shot and it turned out really great especially for a lesson that Leonard has to learn for himself, this story proved that it has to be HIM to break off his relationship with Penny. Anyway give it a read, you won't regret it, even though the Shamy parts in it are a bit unrealistic LOL: http://m.fanfiction.net/s/9062724/1/The-Fade-Of-Love-Catalyst

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melmay14 March 3 2013, 14:54:18 UTC
Yeah, the Shamy part is definitely barftastic.

I thought the story was very good at explaining Leonard, and realistically analyzing Leonard's shortcomings. It was great to see Alex reject him at first because he was reverting back to his old insecure ways, and it took him getting right with himself first, before being ready for a true healthy relationship.

It kind of surprised me that the author could be so realistic about Leonard and so completely deluded with the Shamy relationship, but I digress.

I didn't like that there were parts that made Penny seem like the bad guy, but I suppose since it was from primarily Leonard's POV, that's how it was.

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jislane35 March 3 2013, 15:03:33 UTC
Well the author is a Shamy fan so I could understand why they were that way, its just hard to inagine him saying those three little words so easily with the way he's acting with her now, not to mention taking her for granted and not realizing what he had until she threatens to leave him And obviously Leonard would always have a negative outlook at Penny thanks to his insecurities and bitter attitude towards people who's lives are better than his own, the pint is that Leonard would have to be the one cut off what he had with Penny because whenever she herself tries to break it off with things don't go according to plan (ex. Alcohol, sex, fights, make outs, promises they don't intend to keep etc.) but the real question here is could Leonard actually 'fall out Iove' with Penny??? It seems impossible now! But in my opinion the author did pint out some good reasons as to why he should giving the way Prnny takes him for granted most of the time and isn't too appreciative with who he is instead of what he tries to be for her.

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gamma12 March 3 2013, 17:31:13 UTC
But that's one of the thing that I had a problem with in the story- Leonard thinking that he had given up who he was to be with Penny. The thing is that I don't remember Penny ever asking him to do that. It is part of why Leonard is attracted to Penny- she represent normal and normal is something he always thought he wanted and he thinks he had to change to get it. Its always been his own insecurities driving him and while the whole bad relationship is not all Leonard's fault it is certainly not all Penny's either(who mooned over who for 2+ years, who restarted the relationship despite the fact he thought it was a bad idea.) He claims to have fallen out of love- maybe a little more introspection on his part would label it as infatuation. I do agree that it really needs to be Leonard who wakes up and realizes what a bad relationship he has with Penny for the whole thing to finally be over.

Yeah I like how the author just threw that Shamy bit in. Please.

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sat_night_815 March 4 2013, 02:26:26 UTC
THIS^^^ It's not Penny's fault that Leonard is so insecure that he tries to change himself in order to please others. He has done this in every relationship, from Dr. Stephanie to Priya. Is that Penny's fault too? To be honest, while I agree with the premise that Leonard will have to be the one to initiate a breakup, I had a hard time getting past the author's vitriol towards Penny and the insipid Shamy moments. I found it interesting that the author decided that the beginning of Leonard's new relationship with Alex should begin simply, with her coming over to his place. What better way to start a new relationship than being with a person as he/she truly is, dressed comfortably, doing something easy that they both would enjoy. You know, kind of like in the Spaghetti Catalyst, after Penny had broken up with Leonard, and Sheldon came over for spaghetti with little hot dogs. She wasn't dressed up like she usually was with Leonard. She was in her Husker sweats, no makeup and her hair was in a ponytail. She had worked a long ( ... )

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gamma12 March 4 2013, 06:17:57 UTC
Yes, Leonard and Penny have never been natural with each other when dating- they each bring out too many insecurities in the other. The best pairings are of people who come the closest to being their natural selves in each other's presence. That is not Leonard and Penny(doesnt seem like Sheldon and Amy either). As the writers have shown over and over this season L/P cannot even talk to each other about anything that matters- at least not without it getting to the point that one or the other of them gets pissed off enough that it boils over. Not good long term relationship material. Now with Alex they showed Leonard behaving naturally- no hang-ups or insecurities in sight just relaxed. . I have always felt that the way they have portrayed Leonard and his upbringing that he would need someone near his own educational background to really be happy. Alex or Amy would fit the bill ( ... )

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