I'm wondering if we currently have writers who can come from a more balanced place with regard to John, which would be a nice thing. You know I agree with you about the kind of person John was. :)
While I think you're probably right about JDM not returning to the show, a tiny piece of me thinks (hopes?) that this is the reason Jeremy Carver has been trying to restore some of the 'old John' back to the character. JDM says he'd like to come back and redress the balance. Maybe Carver has figured out a way to do that...?
I want to see Dean talk about his dad like that too. I need it!
You mean more recent than what Dean said in S6, right? Because as I see it, Dean has found a balance between the two ends of the spectrum he's felt about John.
One of my favorite comments about John this season is when Cas is reading John's journal and he tells Dean, "Your father had beautiful handwriting." Have you looked at John's handwriting? It's not what I'd call "beautiful." Which highlights for me how Castiel sees things on a different level than people do. I suspect that Cas is seeing past the ink on the page.
I think Dean has found a bit of a balance and I think Sam has too but I still feel like the overall feeling is that John was a dick. I hate that. Maybe it's because I have such strong feelings about John and Show keeps waffling all over the place.
John's storyline has been woven with the boys through out show. So much of their lives has been dependent on and connected to their father - I just wish we hear some more positive things from the boys themselves.
I think writers have finally let the boyz reach the acceptance stage of grief in dealing with John. Both extremes, from hero worship to outright anger have dissipated into a manageable mediate where they accept and love John for who he was, flaws and all, and know that he loved them too.
If may have been a harder journey for Dean, since John was so high up on that pedestal, but it was no picnic for Sam either. I always saw Sam as feeling more guilt than anything. He spent so many years just pissed!
Anyhoo. I think our boyz are grown up and that's what grown ups do. Finally see their parents as human.
I think seeing Dad as a human being with faults is important. I think that has happened to some degree, I just...want something solid and I want it to be positive.
I'm just so emotional about John and the boys. They feel like family and I'm the peacemaker and the bridge builder in mine. I doubt they will ever hold hands and sing but I want something more.
They are grown up and that growing up has changed the for the best.
Oh good. I've been trying to clean up my writing files and notebooks, and I really want to get back to writing some SPN, but I'm kinda scared that it's going to suck hard... I was getting a little hyperfocused on the discipline aspect, and I want to be plottier, and that's terrifying and time consuming, lol. I'm starting to move stuff over to AO3, too, so that I can use my journal for experimenting again.
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(Yeah, I know I'm probably dreaming!)
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*waits patiently with crossed fingers with you*
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You mean more recent than what Dean said in S6, right? Because as I see it, Dean has found a balance between the two ends of the spectrum he's felt about John.
One of my favorite comments about John this season is when Cas is reading John's journal and he tells Dean, "Your father had beautiful handwriting." Have you looked at John's handwriting? It's not what I'd call "beautiful." Which highlights for me how Castiel sees things on a different level than people do. I suspect that Cas is seeing past the ink on the page.
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John's storyline has been woven with the boys through out show. So much of their lives has been dependent on and connected to their father - I just wish we hear some more positive things from the boys themselves.
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If may have been a harder journey for Dean, since John was so high up on that pedestal, but it was no picnic for Sam either. I always saw Sam as feeling more guilt than anything. He spent so many years just pissed!
Anyhoo. I think our boyz are grown up and that's what grown ups do. Finally see their parents as human.
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I'm just so emotional about John and the boys. They feel like family and I'm the peacemaker and the bridge builder in mine. I doubt they will ever hold hands and sing but I want something more.
They are grown up and that growing up has changed the for the best.
*pouts*
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